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More On The Conway-Paul SurveyUSA Data

September 5th, 2010 · 24 Comments

Here’s what A Kentucky Newspaper had to say about the latest SurveyUSA polling data:

Conway poller Pete Brodnitz, of the Benenson Strategy Group, said its analysis showed that the SurveyUSA poll overestimates the turnout of voters without a party registration and underestimates registered Democratic turnout.

Unfortunately, the Conway Campaign is underestimating the Libertarian allure of Rand Paul, which draws out the independents and folks not aligned with a particular partisan bent. And the Conway folks are ignorantly ignoring the reality that Democrats are – more and more – finding reasons to stay home on November 2 because they aren’t being given a reason to support the Democratic nominee.

The latest poll accounts for those two issues.

Democrats can hem and haw and hate me for living here in reality. But that won’t change anything. It’s not as simple as knocking on a few doors and getting college kids to make telephone calls. It’s not as simple as pressuring me to say that Democrats hold the key. The Democrats and Jack Conway, specifically, need to give people a reason to vote.

Mark Riddle had Jack sit on his hands for four months, so it may just be too late. We’ll never know if they don’t give us a reason to vote.

Tags: Jack Conway · Polling · Rand Paul · Senate

24 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Richie'sMustache // Sep 5, 2010 at 1:00 pm

    Jack can always grow and mustache and try again in a few years!

  • 2 Richie'sMustache // Sep 5, 2010 at 1:00 pm

    Jack can always grow A mustache and try again in a few years!

  • 3 Larry West // Sep 5, 2010 at 1:47 pm

    Yes, but didn’t Stan Lee have a mustache?

  • 4 EKY Voter // Sep 5, 2010 at 2:03 pm

    it’s looking more and more like the GOP primary every day. similar attack ads (kooky vs. risky), silent treatment on many issues (Conway & Grayson), and now, terrible poll numbers in the face of all sorts of mud. I wonder if Liberty Christ Ayn Randy Rand Paul will destroy Conway as badly as he destroyed Grayson? i hope so.

  • 5 Key // Sep 5, 2010 at 2:08 pm

    I hate to tell Golden Triangle Dems the awful truth: Mongiardo would have been a better candidate. He spent the last six years reaching out to the rural voters. Jack never went west of Louisville. There is little enthusiasm for him in Western Kentucky among Democrats. On top of that I have me Republicans and independents who have told me they would have voted for Mongiardo. In fact the only reason he came close to winning in 04 was because he was conservative enough for most of Kentucky. The typical Kentuckian wants to vote for somebody who is pro-life, pro-gun, and can bing home the bacon. Mongiardo fits the bill very well.

  • 6 le gardien de but // Sep 5, 2010 at 3:30 pm

    I wish Dan or somebody with name recognition & a list of accomplishments would/could run as an independent….

  • 7 blowin' in the wind // Sep 5, 2010 at 5:39 pm

    Stop blubberin’ people and ask the fundamental question: Do you REALLY want Ron Paul to be your Senator? Kentucky’s reputation nationally is bad enough!

  • 8 Anonymous // Sep 5, 2010 at 5:50 pm

    Applying the logic of Mr. Brodnitz, every state wide position should be held by a Democrat and a Republican should not be able to be elected. We of course know that is not the case and have significant proof in the arena, McConnell, Bunning and Fletcher for example.

    Conway’s pride alienated Mongiardo’s people. Not even one of Mongiardo’s campaign staff, hired onto the Conway campaign. The DSCC packed up their bags and left laughing.

    I’m sorry, stop whining about the poll and do something about why it came out that way. If you can.

  • 9 demwholosthope // Sep 5, 2010 at 10:30 pm

    Conway is an arrogant asshole who doesn’t care about anyone but himself. He has good people working for him but he is not a good person himself. He is a career politican who doesn’t care who he steps on to get to the top and he cares more about how he looks in the mirror than the everyday man’s problems. I am not a Rand Paul fan but I understand his appeal when he is put up against the rich arrogant pretty boy.

  • 10 Davi // Sep 6, 2010 at 9:02 am

    I would like for Jack to call Dr. Paul on his using “Obamacare” as a negative or slime-word to fault Jack’s support of the health care bill.

    For one, it’s very low of Dr. Paul to resort to leading his supporters toward more dislike of our President, toward more panic at national health care, when HE himself benefits from what national health care already in place–Medicare. According to some reports, that was/is most of his practice.

    I believe Jack should stand up more openly for health care, paint Dr. Paul the hypocrit he is, point out that the word “Obamacare” is disrespectful for this huge effort our government has made to get health care under some kind of control for ALL of the people.

    There are many people, including Republicans, who are aware that there was no end to increases in health insurance premiums or their rate of refusing coverage. Many are in agreement that passing the health care bill is a good start.

    I want Jack Conway and the National Democratic Party to CLAIM this bill, make Rand Paul (and other candidates using the same tactics) the dishonest, disrespectful candidate he is, by openly challenging the much thrownabout word: “Obamacare”.

    It is wrong, stupid, unprincipled to allow that concept to go unchallenged by those who supported, worked for, voted for national health care.

  • 11 FreemanNKy // Sep 6, 2010 at 9:48 am

    Davi,

    I hope Jack takes your advice and mentions Obama and Health Care as much as possible. He should talk about the virtues of the things he’s campaigned for so far as well. He’s campaign against and for bailouts, also for and against Bush Tax cuts, his support of no withdraw in Afghanistan, opposition to gay marriage, Farm Subsidies, and balancing the budget through a magic bullet of prescription drug price lowering.

    I doubt the term “Obamacare” is the sole reason Jack is losing.

  • 12 bestmid // Sep 6, 2010 at 8:22 pm

    Jack is losing because
    WE HAVEN’T HEARD A WORD FROM HIM IN MONTHS.
    Have you seen ANY Jack Conway commercials?
    Do you know his position on anything?
    Does he appear to be running for US Senate?
    Has he actually DONE ANYTHING, gone anywhere, said anything relevant?
    God… blowin’s right.
    As if Kentucky isn’t already thought of as a bunch of idiot hillbillies, now we’re going to elect their King.
    To the US Senate.
    Where he will be WORSE for us than Do-Nothing Bunning.
    Smells like Huddleston… who kinda quit without really telling anyone.
    Makes me sad.
    I love Kentucky.

  • 13 jake // Sep 6, 2010 at 8:27 pm

    Senator Paul is going to guarantee I have a fuckload to write about for YEARS to come.

  • 14 FreemanNKy // Sep 7, 2010 at 12:31 am

    Jake,

    Rand Paul is to Liberal Bloggers what W. was to Comedians.

    OK, I set the joke up. Your turn to respond.

  • 15 Lisa Tanner // Sep 7, 2010 at 4:22 am

    If you want to see Jack Conway he is out there! If you want to help there are offices all over the Commonwealth! If you want to know who to contact in your county to get involved email me at lltann01@gmail.com!
    If you all are Democrats then on May 19th you should have been for Jack Conway! If you all are Democrats then you shouldn’t spend your time on here complaining about Jack you should be out there helping him! This is a fight for a seat in the U.S. Senate…this is not a joke!
    Jack is a great guy and he is exceptionally smart and I can promise you that no matter who was running his race you all would be on here criticizing that person as well.
    I don’t know what kind of people would sit idly by and let Rand Paul a Texan be the next Senator from this wonderful Commonwealth that we all love. If you really love it you would be out there helping Jack Conway and all the other Democrats get elected. I for one am going to do everything I can to help and no matter what on Nov 2nd I will know I did everything I could to fight for this Commonwealth and all the people in it. That is what all the Democrats should be doing….it is why we are Democrats in the first place, we care!

  • 16 jake // Sep 7, 2010 at 7:35 am

    Really, Lisa? Where’s he been? Just a couple weeks ago he’d only been to 20-something counties. And he’s spending a majority of this month outside the Commonwealth on fundraising trips.

    Working for him is easier said than done. You know first-hand what I’m talking about. Countless prominent Democrats and Republicans have tried to volunteer for Jack, tried to get involved. Either they don’t get called back or they’re snubbed for whatever reason. So take it easy on your spin.

    The kind of person sitting idly by to let Rand Paul waltz to victory are the kind of people who have not been given a reason to vote for Jack Conway.

    I know you’re fired up for John Waltz, who will lose to Geoff Davis, and that’s nice. But take off the campaign blinders and look at what is and is not happening.

  • 17 Lisa Tanner // Sep 7, 2010 at 8:10 am

    This specific post has nothing to do with John Waltz even though I am fired up for him as well as all the other Democrats.
    Jack was in Erlanger just this week and spoke to a ton of supporters who showed up for the office opening. He was in Ashland at an office opening and he has Field Organizers everywhere. It is not hard to get involved now, it may have been in the past but just like the primary that is the past.
    Like my 94 year old Grandmother always says “That is the past and the past is gone!” We need to move on!
    I don’t have on campaign blinders I know that he has been all over, I have seen him! I know he has offices, I have been to them! I know there are many ways to get involved, the county by county organization, the field organizers all over the state, I have met them.
    I just want people to be proactive and get out there and take their destiny into their own hands instead of complaining. There are 55 days, 21 hours, and 50 minutes until polls open on election day and nothing is decided until that day.
    I don’t know about the rest of you all but Rand Paul is NOT and option in my view and I will fight tooth and nail to make sure he isn’t my next Senator I hope all of you will join me.

  • 18 jake // Sep 7, 2010 at 8:16 am

    Okay, where’s Jack been if he’s been all over? And I don’t just mean the last two weeks. And why hide his schedule? Why spend so much time out of state?

    Jack wouldn’t, you’ll recall, do jack in Northern Kentucky until called out. He skipped out on a key area of Louisville to mill about the zoo one day.

    And if it were super-easy to get involved now? Then I don’t think prominent Democratic women in Louisville would have called me last week to complain. Two of them from very different walks of life.

  • 19 Larry West // Sep 7, 2010 at 8:22 am

    Lisa, it’s kind of a stretch to call Rand Paul a Texan. He’s been living in Bowling Green and helping the community since about 1993.

    Perhaps then we should call Jack Conway whatever it is you call residents of Washington, DC, since that’s where Jack lived in 1993 going to the George Washington University Law School there, working (not just going to school) for the US House Banking Committee [if you can trust Wikipedia].

    In other words, Rand Paul has been living continuously in Kentucky longer than Jack Conway has.

  • 20 Davi // Sep 7, 2010 at 9:08 am

    Larry, you are stretching certainly.

    Jack Conway IS a Kentuckian, tracing his family back generations. Having held public office makes him even more a Kentuckian in my book.

    To clip his law school years out of context of roots is ridiculous.

    And of course Rand Paul is not a Kentuckian.

  • 21 Larry West // Sep 7, 2010 at 2:52 pm

    If, according to the Democratic Party in 2003 or so, Kentuckian Hunter Bates (Ernie Fletcher’s original choice for lt. gov.) was NOT a Kentuckian during his time in Washington, DC, shouldn’t the same apply to Jack Conway?
    I may be stupid, but I don’t really see the difference. (Personally, I think Hunter got a raw deal back then, but then, it doesn’t matter to me where a person is from, just where they are from now.)
    I guess Daniel Boone wasn’t really a Kentuckian, since his original roots weren’t here either.
    Anyone who decides to live here for 17 years IS a Kentuckian in my book. Besides, I stated “continuously” living in Kentucky. You can’t deny the truthfulness of that statement if you believe that Hunter Bates was rightfully kicked off the Fletcher ticket, or, for that matter, Dana Seum Stephenson during her time in college, since her family was lifetime residents of Louisville.

  • 22 jake // Sep 7, 2010 at 3:07 pm

    Larry,

    You don’t know what you’re talking about.

    Hunter’s voter registration, license, life, household, everything was in Virginia. He lived there. Everything had been transferred there. Unlike Jack’s, which was in Kentucky while he was at school.

  • 23 bestmid // Sep 7, 2010 at 8:27 pm

    Guess what Lisa? I’ve donated a couple of times and worked for Jack’s campaign, during the primary season and within the last month. I have the t-shirt, the yard sign and the mega-sized phone list.

    Yet some days, I feel like I am doing more than he is to get him elected.

    And by the way, I’ve never seen such an openly tired bunch of campaign staffers. Even if you ARE tired, you must NOT show it, and certainly not to the grunt volunteers.

  • 24 Larry West // Sep 7, 2010 at 11:37 pm

    I looked it up, and Jack Conway (as John W. Conway) has been registered to vote in Kentucky since 4/16/87. Rand Paul (as Randal Howard Paul) has been registered since 9/2/93. So you are correct in that respect. However, he still LIVED (slept) in Washington, DC, unless he had a very very long commute to work and school each day.
    I still stand by my statement that Rand has LIVED CONTINUOUSLY in Kentucky longer than Jack has, but we are both right in what we said.

    Anyway, Rand moved to Kentucky right after his residency in 1993, so he has not lived anywhere else as a opthomologist. His wife was raised in Russellville, KY, and Rand’s kids were all born here. To me, that makes him just as much a Kentuckian as anyone else.

    Of course, where someone went to school and where someone lived in the last century should be non-issues. What their plans are to get us out of this recession should be the issue. As someone once said, “it’s the economy, stupid.” If the Conway camp continues to play the “not a Kentuckian” card, it’s simply a sign that they have no answers to the more pressing problems. If Rand’s views are so bad, surely Jack can come up with better solutions. If he does so, he might even have a chance to win.

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