Comments on: Beshear Vision For Higher Education: Do The Right Thing And Get Fired, Trashed All Over The Place http://pageonekentucky.com/2010/07/19/beshear-vision-for-higher-education-do-the-right-thing-and-get-fired-trashed-all-over-the-place/ an informed, savvy take on media & politics in Kentucky Thu, 24 May 2012 21:46:07 -0700 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.3 By: jake http://pageonekentucky.com/2010/07/19/beshear-vision-for-higher-education-do-the-right-thing-and-get-fired-trashed-all-over-the-place/comment-page-1/#comment-94538 jake Mon, 19 Jul 2010 21:25:16 +0000 http://pageonekentucky.com/?p=8035#comment-94538 STOP! You're going to make my mind melt. I refuse to learn anything else. STOP! You’re going to make my mind melt.

I refuse to learn anything else.

]]> By: Blowin' in the wind http://pageonekentucky.com/2010/07/19/beshear-vision-for-higher-education-do-the-right-thing-and-get-fired-trashed-all-over-the-place/comment-page-1/#comment-94537 Blowin' in the wind Mon, 19 Jul 2010 21:18:01 +0000 http://pageonekentucky.com/?p=8035#comment-94537 Aw Jake, diagramming is a cinch; I'll give you lessons. Aw Jake, diagramming is a cinch; I’ll give you lessons.

]]> By: jake http://pageonekentucky.com/2010/07/19/beshear-vision-for-higher-education-do-the-right-thing-and-get-fired-trashed-all-over-the-place/comment-page-1/#comment-94534 jake Mon, 19 Jul 2010 21:09:04 +0000 http://pageonekentucky.com/?p=8035#comment-94534 All I know is that most kids rolling out of Kentucky's school system these days are less intellectual and less intelligent than me. THAT SHOULD ALARM EVERY ONE. SHOULD LITERALLY ALARM YOU. Because I'm near the bottom of the barrel on the smarts front and have zero idea how to diagram a sentence. Some would say (me, I say it) I have no idea how to write a proper sentence. All I know is that most kids rolling out of Kentucky’s school system these days are less intellectual and less intelligent than me.

THAT SHOULD ALARM EVERY ONE. SHOULD LITERALLY ALARM YOU.

Because I’m near the bottom of the barrel on the smarts front and have zero idea how to diagram a sentence. Some would say (me, I say it) I have no idea how to write a proper sentence.

]]> By: Bill http://pageonekentucky.com/2010/07/19/beshear-vision-for-higher-education-do-the-right-thing-and-get-fired-trashed-all-over-the-place/comment-page-1/#comment-94531 Bill Mon, 19 Jul 2010 20:42:27 +0000 http://pageonekentucky.com/?p=8035#comment-94531 Maybe its the schools themselves really because I've seen what you guys have seen with the people being mind blowing illiterate. It is very interesting because many of them cannot complete a decent sentence and their own work and emails are even full of errors in spelling and basic grammar skills. In fact, in all of the places I've lived and been to in these United States, I've never seen such horrid grammar skills and sentence structure. If you look at what would even be considered rudimentary English grammar, these people fail miserably with their lack of writing skills. I am in no way a Nobel prize winner for literature but when someone can't spell simple words and put together a reasonably coherent sentence then something is seriously wrong. Whether it is KERA or not is up for debate, but something is seriously wrong in the schools but you can be assured that the Bible Thumpers will always have a solution and its not going to make anyone smarter for knowing and adapting to their solutions. Did you know that something like 90 plus percent of ancient Israel and Palestine was totally illiterate much like what Afghanistan is today. No wonder they were largely an ignorant conglomeration of people fit to be conquered. Unfortunately, we are heading down the same path. Maybe its the schools themselves really because I’ve seen what you guys have seen with the people being mind blowing illiterate.

It is very interesting because many of them cannot complete a decent sentence and their own work and emails are even full of errors in spelling and basic grammar skills.

In fact, in all of the places I’ve lived and been to in these United States, I’ve never seen such horrid grammar skills and sentence structure. If you look at what would even be considered rudimentary English grammar, these people fail miserably with their lack of writing skills. I am in no way a Nobel prize winner for literature but when someone can’t spell simple words and put together a reasonably coherent sentence then something is seriously wrong. Whether it is KERA or not is up for debate, but something is seriously wrong in the schools but you can be assured that the Bible Thumpers will always have a solution and its not going to make anyone smarter for knowing and adapting to their solutions. Did you know that something like 90 plus percent of ancient Israel and Palestine was totally illiterate much like what Afghanistan is today. No wonder they were largely an ignorant conglomeration of people fit to be conquered. Unfortunately, we are heading down the same path.

]]> By: Blowin' in the wind http://pageonekentucky.com/2010/07/19/beshear-vision-for-higher-education-do-the-right-thing-and-get-fired-trashed-all-over-the-place/comment-page-1/#comment-94524 Blowin' in the wind Mon, 19 Jul 2010 20:19:51 +0000 http://pageonekentucky.com/?p=8035#comment-94524 Several things reinforcing one another--education system, low expectations and little real parenting at all levels of income, parents not helping kids to develop internal discipline, shift from words to pictures...I could probably go on for two or three pages, Jake. Several things reinforcing one another–education system, low expectations and little real parenting at all levels of income, parents not helping kids to develop internal discipline, shift from words to pictures…I could probably go on for two or three pages, Jake.

]]> By: jake http://pageonekentucky.com/2010/07/19/beshear-vision-for-higher-education-do-the-right-thing-and-get-fired-trashed-all-over-the-place/comment-page-1/#comment-94519 jake Mon, 19 Jul 2010 19:54:44 +0000 http://pageonekentucky.com/?p=8035#comment-94519 In just the past ten years, I've watched high school graduates from Kentucky get mind-blowingly more illiterate. I'm not sure it's KERA, but SOMETHING is sure the shit up. In just the past ten years, I’ve watched high school graduates from Kentucky get mind-blowingly more illiterate.

I’m not sure it’s KERA, but SOMETHING is sure the shit up.

]]> By: Blowin' in the wind http://pageonekentucky.com/2010/07/19/beshear-vision-for-higher-education-do-the-right-thing-and-get-fired-trashed-all-over-the-place/comment-page-1/#comment-94518 Blowin' in the wind Mon, 19 Jul 2010 19:52:55 +0000 http://pageonekentucky.com/?p=8035#comment-94518 Boogs, Unfortunately this is not just a Kentucky problem, as you note. I agree about the problems with standards nation-wide. However, there have been real improvements in Kentucky, just not enough of them. Serious change is needed, but the will is lacking at every level of education and government. Boogs, Unfortunately this is not just a Kentucky problem, as you note. I agree about the problems with standards nation-wide. However, there have been real improvements in Kentucky, just not enough of them. Serious change is needed, but the will is lacking at every level of education and government.

]]> By: Boogs http://pageonekentucky.com/2010/07/19/beshear-vision-for-higher-education-do-the-right-thing-and-get-fired-trashed-all-over-the-place/comment-page-1/#comment-94517 Boogs Mon, 19 Jul 2010 19:44:16 +0000 http://pageonekentucky.com/?p=8035#comment-94517 I don't consider KERA a success when I interact with young adult Kentuckians every day on Facebook and several times a year in person and find that they are essentially functionally illiterate. I don't care what the metrics say about the "improvement" of education in Kentucky. The reality is that public education standards in the United States are in crisis, and being below average in such an environment is not a quality to trumpet. I have literally had college graduates from Kentucky argue to my face that not being able to write complete sentences on demand without proofreading is not a skill that the average literate person should possess. I don’t consider KERA a success when I interact with young adult Kentuckians every day on Facebook and several times a year in person and find that they are essentially functionally illiterate. I don’t care what the metrics say about the “improvement” of education in Kentucky. The reality is that public education standards in the United States are in crisis, and being below average in such an environment is not a quality to trumpet. I have literally had college graduates from Kentucky argue to my face that not being able to write complete sentences on demand without proofreading is not a skill that the average literate person should possess.

]]> By: Blowin' in the wind http://pageonekentucky.com/2010/07/19/beshear-vision-for-higher-education-do-the-right-thing-and-get-fired-trashed-all-over-the-place/comment-page-1/#comment-94513 Blowin' in the wind Mon, 19 Jul 2010 19:26:31 +0000 http://pageonekentucky.com/?p=8035#comment-94513 Helen Mountjoy understood absolutely nothing about what needed to be done to make KERA a long-term success. She has no understanding of cause and effect, how to implement programs for the long term. To attribute Kentucky's success since KERA to her only demonstrates the ignorance of the writer. Helen Mountjoy understood absolutely nothing about what needed to be done to make KERA a long-term success. She has no understanding of cause and effect, how to implement programs for the long term. To attribute Kentucky’s success since KERA to her only demonstrates the ignorance of the writer.

]]> By: jake http://pageonekentucky.com/2010/07/19/beshear-vision-for-higher-education-do-the-right-thing-and-get-fired-trashed-all-over-the-place/comment-page-1/#comment-94511 jake Mon, 19 Jul 2010 19:13:07 +0000 http://pageonekentucky.com/?p=8035#comment-94511 I guess that's why the Governor's Office is crapping its pants, right, David? Because she is simple not capable of wrongdoing... There are a lot of good people who do bullshit things like this in government. If there's corruption here, it needs to be rooted out ASAP. If Helen is innocent, we need to know. If she's guilty, she needs to pay up right away. I guess that’s why the Governor’s Office is crapping its pants, right, David? Because she is simple not capable of wrongdoing…

There are a lot of good people who do bullshit things like this in government.

If there’s corruption here, it needs to be rooted out ASAP. If Helen is innocent, we need to know. If she’s guilty, she needs to pay up right away.

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