9 responses so far ↓

• 1 Brian Carpenter // Jul 13, 2010 at 11:55 am

  Love the alex jones nut case in the “infowars” t-shirt shows how “colorful” that crowd was.

• 2 Johnny Masters // Jul 13, 2010 at 12:37 pm

  not a scary black man… but a scary black Democrat… it’s scary that he’s so likable

• 3 Rand Paul Sucks // Jul 13, 2010 at 2:35 pm

  Wow, there are so many easily disputed points and contradictions in this man’s speech it could make your head spin.

  I’d love to have a 1 on 1 with this guy to review his speech. He might find it tougher to defend his beloved Bush after we did, though.

• 4 Larry West // Jul 13, 2010 at 3:04 pm

  Johnny: Mr. J. doesn’t seem to understand that it is Obama’s VIEWS on the issues that we are afraid of, not the color of his skin.
  If Alan Keyes were in the White House, I would bet that he would have the same problem with the president that we have, but I wouldn’t imply that he was a racist because of Alan’s color of skin.
  He appears to have the presupposition that if you are against what a particular black person believes in, you are automatically a racist. Just remember that his wrong presupposition is just that, and move on.
  Of course, there is a chance that he knows it is not true, but telling it as a lie anyway. In which case, you really can’t trust anything he says. But I don’t think that is true — I just think he is honestly deluded.
  (I’ll be very surprised if this survives his moderation.)

• 5 Steve Magruder // Jul 13, 2010 at 3:11 pm

  I am more patriotic than any teabagger. I also love and understand liberty and freedom more than they do.

  (Note: Any American who’s not a teabagger can substitute themselves for the ‘I’)

• 6 Mark H (Not Hebert) // Jul 13, 2010 at 3:28 pm

  If it were only that simplistic.

  “You’re a racist teabagger, no you’re a socialist!”

  Both candidates are pathetic characatures of the Democratic and Republican parties.

  Come on people. Can we get past the “teabaggers are afraid of the scary black man” and the “Obama’s a Stalinist” talking points.

  We get it by now. No need to repeat the same taking points over and over again. Neither accusation is true, and they are really getting old and juvenile at this point.

  A discussion of policy positions would be welcome instead.

• 7 Larry West // Jul 14, 2010 at 10:27 am

  Agree with you totally, Mark H. At first I thought Mr. J. was making a joke with his constant “scary black man in the White House” routine (contrasting the words black and white), then I discovered that he doesn’t like jokes involving race (unless they’re his, perhaps?).

  I would love to see more discussion of policy positions also, as I belive that under a fair discussion, Paul would win easily. I believe the Conway campaign thinks this also, since there is very little talk of the issues from their side and more of the “I’m not Rand” talk that succeeded for Grayson oh so well. Mr. J. is trying to get Jack to change his campaign and be more open, and for that I hope he succeeds.

  I also think it is inappropriate to question another person’s patriotism. Many of the so-called “teabaggers” are veterans or current military who love our country so much that they were willing to offer their lives for it. None, as far as I know, have threatened to go to Canada (even to get campaign contributions – lol). Almost all of them have a greater respect for the Constitution, as they understand it, than most non-tea partiers have of the Constitution as they understand it. (How many non-tea partiers know what the tenth amendment is, for example.)
  Whether one side or the other understands the Constitution more correctly IS a valid topic of discussion, but not the patriotism of each side’s members.

• 8 jake // Jul 14, 2010 at 10:35 am

  Okay, let’s talk policy. What policies does Rand Paul support? What are his positions? I mean, the ones he hasn’t flip-flopped on? That’s what I thought.

  Yeah, Jack never talks about issues or policy. The bailout, oil, economy, drug problem, the rights of everyone, big business, small business, taxes. Keep spinning.

  Inappropriate to question someone’s patriotism? You mean the junk these people are peddling? Complaining about the scary black man in the White House, the Messicans flooding our backyard and changing our signs to include more languages than Eeeengleeesh? Foaming at the mouth about reverse racism? Yeah, let’s talk about patriotism. What was that, again, about libruls hating America and trying to take yer guns? How’s that not questioning someone’s patriotism for their country?

  This has jack to do with the Constitution and everything to do with a bunch of people living in basements with no jobs complaining about taxes, freedom and guns. Outside of that? There’s nothing going on. Aside from about 2/3 of the populace being too fat and ignorant to be bothered with registering to vote or too broken down and desensitized to care about the here and now, let alone the future.

• 9 Mark H (Not Hebert) // Jul 14, 2010 at 12:00 pm

  The reality is that both the right and the left realize that the country is going down a very disconcerting path. Sure this has been bemoaned in the past, but aside from foreign threats, that path has been one of opinion (ie. social issues, racial issues, and alike).

  This time it’s different, because it is inevitable due to the structural make-up of the situation. We’re not talking about the country going to hell because kids are are listening to rock and roll or whites and blacks, or gays are marrying. Sure there are some fringe people who still think that those issues are huge, but that’s not what most people I know are worrying about.

  They are seeing government pensions being funded at 50% or less, unfunded medical liabilities, structurally unsupportive entitlements, and while there may be a great deal of opinions on how we can or if we can realistically address these issues, there is nobody who can say they don’t exist and won’t come crashing to head in the near future.

  This is why it’s important to get lock these politicians on both sides down on their real policy positions, and not some generality or spin. The “scary black man” and “Hitler” taking points don’t help us find out what they are going to do. If Ron Paul has bad ideas for the future and in my opinion he has many), they should be exposed into the light for everyone to see. Likewise, Conway shouldn’t be allowed to duck tough media interviews and appearances and try and run under the radar.

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