Let’s address the Jim King elephant in the room. Everyone who reads this site knows I’ve held the hot iron to the feet of both Metro Councilman Jim King and his daughter, Judge Katie King, for over a year. And despite what a few loud critics have suggested, the two do not receive special treatment from any website in my network because King Southern Bank (which King owns) is an advertiser. And I’m not letting up on my criticism.
That said, I’ve been pressing Jim King for a while and have done quite a bit of investigation surrounding the claims that he and his daughter, Katie, violated campaign finance law last year. I wanted, I admit, nothing more than for it to be true. Wanted nothing more than to have yet another reason to dislike that crew. But ever so slowly, it became clear to me after tons of research and interviews that they didn’t violate Kentucky Registry of Election Finance guidelines.
That said, I want to specifically address a complaint filed by Ed Springston (rather, some anonymous attorney who has teamed up with him, we believe his initials could be DF and think he has a prominent daddy in Oldham County) that currently sits with the KREF. Springston claims, well, umpteen different things. Here’s the gist: he alleges that King Southern Bank went out of its way to support the King Family, that the bank gave Katie an illegal loan, that Jim King violated campaign finance law by giving his daughter money, yadda yadda yadda.
But here’s the thing: the KREF does not regulate private finances of candidates. This means that gifts to relatives, as has always been the case, are beyond the reach of KREF.
Some things you should know before we continue: In early 2008, Jim King gave his daughter, Katie, a $10,000 gift ($2,000 below the Federal Gift Tax limit on annual gifts at the time and well within what Katie has received as gifts in the past). Aaaaand… The bank loan Katie received ($30,000, I think?) was reviewed by the Federal Reserve and State Banking Department after complaints were filed. Both entities cleared King. Both entities also cleared all other loans involved. The KREF asked Banking for its opinion and the Kings were again given a clean bill of health. But Springston and his anonymous, incognito attorney who apparently has an axe to grind haven’t let up. (For the record: Banks can give candidates unsecured loans – so long as they’re in the normal course of business. I know tons of candidates who have received them.)
Back to KREF. I obtained an email exchange that took place between Jim King and two employees at the Registry: Jim Neal and Jan Hines.
Read the rest after the jump…
On July 17th-ish, Jim King sent the following email to Jim Neal at KREF:
Jim,
Can you tell me if there is a prohibition on a candidate receiving gifts from relatives and donating those funds to their campaign?
Jim
And on Friday, July 18th, the following response was sent to King:
From: Hines, Jan (KREF)
Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 9:32 AM
To: **King’s email address**
Cc: Neal, Jim (KREF)
Subject: (blank)Dear Mr. King:
Your question has been forwarded to me. Relatives are considered the same as any other contributor and have the $1,000 limit per election.
If you have any further questions, feel free to contact me.
Sincerely,
Jan Hines
Administrative Specialist III
Later that afternoon, King replied:
From: Jim King
Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 2:48 PM
To: Hines, Jan (KREF)
Cc: Neal, Jim (KREF)
Subject: RE: Unconditional gifts to candidates from relativesJan,
I realize relatives can’t make more than a $1,000 contribution to a campaign. My question is this:
Can a relative make an unconditional gift of cash in any amount to a candidate and then can that candidate contribute or loan some or all of that cash to their own campaign if they choose to do so?
Thanks.
Jim King
The following business day, Monday, Jan Hines responded to King’s question:
From: Hines, Jan (KREF)
Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 9:42 AM
To: Jim King
Subject: RE: Unconditional gifts to candidates from relativesDear Mr. King:
The Registry does not regulate the private finances of a candidate. However, bear in mind the appearance and perception others may have.
To further explain, please look at this: http://www.lrc.ky.gov/KRS/121-00/CHAPTER.HTM Look at 121.150(6), (8), and (9).
If you have any further questions, feel free to contact me.
Sincerely,
Jan Hines
Administrative Specialist III
As you can see, KREF told King that it doesn’t regulate the private finances of a candidate. The only thing KREF said beyond that was to be aware that others may think something negative about a rich guy giving his daddy’s girl some money (imagine that).
According to King, he sent the exchange with KREF to his attorney, asking if he was in the clear. His attorney’s response was that it was okay. After that, following the opinion received from the Registry, King gave his daughter, Katie, three unconditional gifts. All after July 21st.
Now, we’re not fans of Katie. Probably never will be. Even though she’s apparently impressing people as a judge in probate court. And I, personally, have never been easy on Jim King and have made him prove everything he’s ever said to me. Like the time I made him prove that he took a polygraph that exonerated him in relation to a homophobic mail piece.
But the email exchange above is pretty clear. The KREF says it doesn’t regulate the personal finances of candidates. The Registry only mentioned that King should care what other people think. That’s it. So we believe King will be vindicated by the KREF on the gifts he gave his daughter. If for some reason the KREF goes against its own advice, then get ready… because dozens upon dozens of opinions can and will be thrown under a bus and taken to court. It will mean everything the Registry has ever said via the telephone, email and in-person is null and void.
Jim King may have other problems. He may very well have other skeletons in his closet. And, no, this is not an endorsement of any potential candidacy for mayor. But this KREF ridiculousness is moot at this point.






13 responses so far ↓
1 Mr. Obvious // Jul 22, 2009 at 11:28 am
You’re “investigation” doesn’t amount to a hill of beans because what you do doesn’t matter. Your constant spouting off about gays and Mongiardo and gays and Mongiardo and gays is tired. Really.
2 lexdem // Jul 22, 2009 at 11:51 am
Wow Mr. Obvious, with apologies to Mr. Shakespeare, methinks you doth protesteth too much.
And may need to learn to read because there’s a lot more here than those two topics. Not that either of those is less worthy because you protest.
Anyway, interesting read there Jake even for non-Louisvillians.
3 jake // Jul 22, 2009 at 12:09 pm
If what I say didn’t matter, you wouldn’t be reading and you wouldn’t be commenting.
Yesterday’s revelation that the Mongiardo Machine is in turmoil musta struck a nerve or two.
4 Mr. Obvious // Jul 22, 2009 at 12:15 pm
You’re right. This is actually Lt. Dan. I care so much I’m commenting on your little posts.
5 brian smith // Jul 22, 2009 at 2:08 pm
You’re commenting on the wrong post anyway Dr. Dan. Or is that not “Obvious”?
6 James R. // Jul 22, 2009 at 3:20 pm
Ask Jim King why he attended a McConnell for Senate fundraiser? dont all good democats do that? I would rather vote Republican for mayor than King, and I will. At least Republicans look you in the eyes and tell you what they are. King is the ultimate greaseball.
If you have to give a polygraph test to Mr. King because you dont trust him, that alone should tell you something serious about his character.
7 Anonymous // Jul 22, 2009 at 6:38 pm
Jake,
What are the itemized values of the three unconditional gifts given after July 21, 2008? When specifically were they given, if you know?
8 Hippopotamus // Jul 22, 2009 at 9:21 pm
Jake,
It’s not an elephant; it’s a hippopotamus. But seriously, whether anyone moves anonymously, pseudonymously or onomously, honestly what does it matter? What matters is that the complaint would not have been filed had the Kings not hired Sheryl Snyder. Celebrity has its price; it’s too obvious. From what I understand, Springston finalized everything in December and sat quiet for two months waiting for the deed of release; but it never came. The door was left swinging in the breeze. I couldn’t stop laughing when he finally walked through and the deed of release appeared. Too funny were the home renovations. I wouldn’t be surprised if Mr. Jones and Ms. Dunlap had a golden chandelier now hanging in their dining room. What came next was a classis bait-and-switch that revealed and unsecured, unamortized demand note. I must admit, Kentucky law suffers by way of comparison with the more enlightened states. But damn; a jury will have fun with that one. Mr. Snyder’s ego must have taken a bruising by failing to redact; but he’s a big boy, he can take it. And then there are the notorious personal gifts. Don’t worry about court, Jake. By my calculation, KREF has 51 days to request a special prosecutor or else David meets Goliath. You can take a seat on the back row and watch. At the rate we’re moving, this won’t end up in the Supreme Court until 2012. Remember to bring a coloring book and a pack of crayons in case you get bored; just try to stay in the lines.
9 jake // Jul 22, 2009 at 10:23 pm
Anonymity most certainly matters if you had anything to do with the anonymous mailers against Katie King – or if you know who is responsible.
Careful of the fingerprints you leave.
10 Hippopotamus // Jul 22, 2009 at 11:08 pm
Jake,
How could I, or anyone else for that matter, know who was responsible for anonymous mailers against Katie King when there were no anonymous mailers against Katie King? You are losing your focus; I trust money has not clouded your judgment. The question is simple: If it is true, as you say, that “gifts to relatives, as has always been the case, are beyond the reach of KREF,” why has KREF requested sworn statements from Mr. and Ms. King “summarizing and documenting all personal monetary gifts” from each other dating from January 17, 2008 to present?
If you would be so kind as to assuage my idle curiosities; how long after July 21, 2008 did Mr. King wait before he unloaded the cash? Did he wait until after October 14, 2008? If I was a betting man, I’d say yes.
11 jake // Jul 22, 2009 at 11:16 pm
There were tons of anonymous mailers against Katie. I published most of them here on this very website.
I’ve also learned a heck of a lot about the folks behind them.
Again – reveal your identity or go ask Jim King yourself. I’m not his mouthpiece.
12 Hippopotamus // Jul 22, 2009 at 11:36 pm
Some people prefer to remain behind the camera than on the stage; besides, it’s not my script. Neither you nor I are anyone’s apologist. I have profited you in ways you do not know. Only one favor do I ask in return: did King unload the cash after Katie’s treasurer resigned?
13 jake // Jul 23, 2009 at 6:51 am
No idea.
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