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Faux Fairness Organization Investigated by OAG

February 18th, 2009 · 56 Comments

All right, let’s talk about this other elephant in the political room these days: the faux fairness “organization” called Kentucky Equality Federation.

Read about KEF and it’s questionable leader/founder, Jordan Palmer, here, here and here.

Anyway, we heard through our Homo Mafia Gayvine [TM] that the Kentucky Equality Federation was under investigation by the Office of the Attorney General’s department of consumer protection. So we decided to check things out.

Turns out our Gayvine was spot-on.  KEF has reached an “assurance of voluntary compliance” to prevent legal action from proceeding. We got our hands on a copy of it. Check it out by clicking here. (Warning: PDF Link)

Some highlights from the AVC:

B. FINDINGS

12. Petitioner has alleged that the Respondent has engaged in unfair, false, misleading or deceptive acts or practices in the conduct of trade and commerce, in violation of KRS 367.170 of the Act.

13. Respondent denies the factual allegations and legal contentions of the Petitioner and specifically denies that he has violated Kentucky law. In order to resolve their differences, the parties have entered into this Assurance of Voluntary Compliance.

IV. PETITIONER’S ALLEGATIONS OF VIOLATIONS

14. Petitioner alleges that Respondent violated KRS 367.170 when he promised, through and on behalf of the charitable or civic organization, Federation for Kentucky Equality, Inc./Kentucky Equality Federation (“Federation”), that certain student organizations at various Kentucky schools would be granted funds derived from an award to Federation from MySpace.com and failed to provide the funds to the student organizations as promised. Petitioner alleges that the student organizations relied upon the promise of funds to their detriment, incurring expenses and obligations which they would not otherwise have incurred. Petitioner alleges that the students received repeated assurances from Respondent that he would forward the funds, however the funds were never provided. Additionally, Petitioner alleges that Respondent used the award money for purposes not authorized by the Federation.

V. NO ADMISSION BY RESPONDENT

15. The Respondent does not admit to any wrongdoing or violation of law, and this AVC shall not be considered an admission of violation for any purpose. Respondent contends that all award money was used as authorized by the Board.

VI. MISCELLANEOUS PROVISIONS

16. Nothing in this AVC shall relieve Respondent of its obligations to comply with all applicable state and federal law.

VII. GENERAL STATEMENTS

19. The Respondent consents and agrees to compromise and settle the consumer protection violations alleged by the Petitioner, and consent to the filing of this AVC, for the purpose of resolving the Petitioner’s allegations stated in this AVC.

20. The Respondent states that he was advised of the opportunity to obtain his attorney’s advice and representation, and that he has been advised by an attorney relating to this matter.

The AG took funds ($5,750) from KEF/Jordan Palmer and distributed money to various organizations KEF promised funds before it went virtually silent. Palmer provided the OAG those funds in the form of checks for restitution and the OAG is distributing the funds to the following Gay-Straight Alliance chapters: Berea College @ $2,000, Morehead State University @ $2,500, Eastern Kentucky University @ $500 and Murray State @ $750.

Palmer is also reimbursing the OAG $1,500 for costs of investigation.

Remember what we said about KEF last year? No? Confused? Click those links above. We’re tooting our own horn, here, about being right. Because Palmer and KEF are, in our opinion, effing swindlers in the third degree. If you give that organization money, you’re asking for trouble.

It’s time for faux organizations like KEF to stop wasting the Commonwealth’s time.

We’ll update if Palmer ever provides a response.

UPDATE: HAHA! Jordan Palmer just threatened to SUE us because we feature and link to his fake organization’s allegedly trademarked logo on this website. Check his comment here. Unfortunately for him, we’re well within fair use because we have edited the image and actually link to his fake organization’s website.

He’s also apparently saying he lied about what he signed and agreed to with the Office of the Attorney General.

Anyway, let Palmer sue us. He can’t afford to face our high-power attorneys and bank of state government allies.

In honor of Palmer’s weird and unlawful demands, here’s something else:


Additionally: Here’s the email we sent Palmer requesting comment, to which he apparently cannot or will not respond to:

Jordan–

Care to comment on the OAG investigation and the AVC?

If you didn’t violate the law or mislead people, as you allege in the AVC, then why provide restitution?

I plan to run a story in about 15 minutes and if I don’t hear from you, I’ll add commentary once it’s provided.

Many thanks.

YET ANOTHER UPDATE: Palmer is now threatening suit via email:

This was a civil matter, and I was urged not to settle. However; the GSAs are the important thing; I wanted no ill-will toward them. I just got a call from US Justice about your post wanting to know how you got your hands on it. You will be subpoenaed.

The Kentucky Attorney General’s Office itself is apparently under investigated by Medicaid and Medicare.

A house divided against itself cannot stand. – Abraham Lincoln. The same can be said for our community. Certain people want to destroy Kentucky Equality, but we still stand strong with new volunteers and additional Board members.

-SNIP-

We could have EASILY won this in court; but, I then would not have had the money to give to the GSAs; and they have always been a priority for me. Why settle? Why not? I always wanted them to have the money, but wanted to know exactly what they would do with it to increase tolerance or make their school a safer place.

Jill, please handle this; I want the Kentucky Equality’s logo off this site, and Jacob Payne sued for deprivation, and slander. You see Jacob; you DO NOT have all the documents! We did nothing wrong, that is why it was in the civil division, NOT criminal. Rather than waste money on a legal defense, I decided to pay it so it goes to LGBTI organizations instead of the AG’s Office. This time Jacob, you have crossed the line.

Note: We are under no legal obligation to keep Palmer’s threatening response confidential. We only protect sources and informants when it comes to confidentiality.

He’ll need to sue Full Signal Media Group, LLC, as it’s the company that owns everything said on this website.

We love that he’s going crazy by threatening to sue us after negative press.

Tags: Corruption · Flashback · Investigation · Jack Conway · The Gays · Wasted Money

56 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Jordan // Feb 18, 2009 at 5:00 pm

    You are the one who is corrupt; I have just been on the phone with various people, you MUST remove our trademarked logo from your site immediately or we will sue you.

    I don’t know what your problem is with Kentucky Equality Federation, and I no longer care.

    The Office of Attorney General is itself under investigation for illegal actions. I am tired of you trying to divide the LGBTI community, and this is NOT the agreement I signed.

    Funding to these organizations was dropped; EVERY organization has the right to change its mind. Also, the MySpace money was to me personally, would you like to see the contract?

    Check-out http://www.usjusticewatch.com.

  • 2 Tee Maze // Feb 18, 2009 at 5:12 pm

    Are those two bananas on that logo? Really?

  • 3 jake // Feb 18, 2009 at 5:15 pm

    Ah, the lying, corrupt swindler speaks!

    If you wish to DEMAND that we remove a graphic that is freely available from the internet (I mean, we even link to your fake organization’s website) — which we edited and are using WITHIN FAIR USE OF COPYRIGHT — then you need to send official communication from an attorney. And it can’t come from your fake attorney who does not exist, as we’ve written about in the past.

    Sue us, sweetie.

    Full Signal Media Group, LLC
    P.O. Box 4513
    Louisville, KY 40204

    I know with absolute certainty that you don’t want to go up against our attorneys and cadre of state government supporters.

    If your silly logo is what you’re taking issue with, hahaha, more power to you. Sue, sue, sue. We would LOVE the publicity.

    I’m even doing one better – I’m taking a screenshot of your website and will edit it and place it on our website – also within fair use rights.

    It appears that you are saying you lied in the document you SIGNED with the Office of the Attorney General?? If that’s the case, somebody alert the OAG immediately.

  • 4 jake // Feb 18, 2009 at 5:16 pm

    P.S. Just forwarded Jordan’s comment to the Office of the Attorney General.

  • 5 Jordan // Feb 18, 2009 at 5:32 pm

    Anyway, let Palmer sue us. He can’t afford to face our high-power attorneys and bank of state government allies………THANKS! That is all I need to know. All the best!

  • 6 jake // Feb 18, 2009 at 5:42 pm

    Really, sweetie, that’s the game you want to play after signing an agreement with the OAG where you SETTLED?

    We are well within copyright law. And if you wish to sue us, be prepared for us to win. There’s tons of legal precedent. And we have won a number of copyright cases since 2007, most of which were brought by major corporations.

  • 7 Dovie Fields // Feb 18, 2009 at 6:00 pm

    NUMBER 1: Kentucky Equality has worked harder than any other agency to assist the GLBT group and that has ALL BEEN JORDAN PALMER!
    NUMBER 2: When you are falsely accused it gets expensive to defend yourself, so sometimes it is easier and CHEAPER to settle. THIS HAPPENS DAILY.
    NUMBER 3: Have any of you out there every been accused of something that you did NOT do? Let those without sin cast the first stone.
    NUMBER 4: The editor of this article NEEDS TO GET HIS FACTS STRAIGHT before publishing trash!
    NUMBER 5: Perhaps this hit the media BECAUSE YOU ARE HOMOPHOBIC! and have nothing positive to say about a guy who has worked his rear end off to fight for a cause. NEVER ANYTIME MENTIONING THE FACT THAT HE HAS SOLELY SUPPORTED THIS ORGANIZATION WITHOUT ANYONE’S HELP! Why don’t you mention this in your little article? Perhaps again because you are homophobic and want to drag a good guy like Jordan Palmer through the MUD!
    NUMBER 6: What about all the years KEF has been an organization, where did the money come from . . .let me tell you out of the PERSONAL POCKET OF MR. PALMER! Web-site fees; business cards; pens; banners; supporting Soul Force through KY. including their room charges and feeding them and I am only mentioning a few things that is included in the cost of running an organization. He has donated a million hours to this organization. He has also helped a lot of people that has been discriminated against and these are not small numbers.
    WHERE ARE THE COMMENTS ABOUT ALL THIS???? I noticed all you wanted to do was trash him instead of giving him credit for what he has done!

  • 8 jake // Feb 18, 2009 at 6:02 pm

    FYI: We’re not attempting to profit from your “trademarked” logo. We’re using it for a public purpose – with our own editing and creative expression – for the public purpose of attempting to expose possible corruption.

    And we also got your AVC from an Open Records Request with the Office of the Attorney General. Threatening to “subpoena” us over something like that – nice move.

  • 9 jake // Feb 18, 2009 at 6:11 pm

    In other news: we forgot to mention that to “subpoena” us, a motion would already have to be filed.

    But go ahead and have your attorney sue us.

    You just better make sure both you and “Jill” are well-versed in copyright, trademark, libel, slander and the Kentucky Revised Statutes.

  • 10 jake // Feb 18, 2009 at 6:18 pm

    NUMBER 1: Prove it.

    NUMBER 2: Cheaper to spend $5,000-$7,000 than to fight it out in Kentucky courts? Hardly. Palmer himself said he was advised not to settle but did not/would not tell us why he decided to do so.

    NUMBER 3: Of course. But I published a full-on AVC obtained via an open records request with the Office of the Attorney General that details everything Palmer agreed to.

    NUMBER 4: Facts are straight – pulled directly from the AVC, which is linked in its entirety. OPEN, PUBLIC RECORDS.

    NUMBER 5: Homophobic? I’m the loudest KNOWN HOMOSEXUAL in the Commonwealth at the moment. I write every single day about something gay-centric. Nice try.

    NUMBER 6: It is not technically accurate to state that he’s funded the organization. He admitted that he received funds from MySpace and agreed to give those funds to the various GSAs named.

  • 11 Tyler Durden // Feb 18, 2009 at 6:19 pm

    I have several questions for the asshat threatening to sue pageone.

    1) I seriously doubt that you have been appointed as a spokesperson for the Justice Department so why are you threatening subpoenas on its behalf?

    2) Are you seriously threatening to sue over information that is public record?

    3) Check your copyright law before you threaten to sue and individual who has not even copied your logo, is not attempting to use it to profiteer, but who is attempting to expose corruption.

    4) Why are you leaking information about an alleged-potential investigation of the OAG that the Justice Department certainly is not discussing.

    5) Are you an asshat?

  • 12 laughingattorneys // Feb 18, 2009 at 6:33 pm

    The entire attorney generals office is laughing its ass off over this. They are already looking into Palmers comments and emails and it won’t be pretty.

  • 13 Nancy Couch // Feb 18, 2009 at 6:36 pm

    Fake attorney KEF’S Attorney is NOT FAKE!
    We have wasted NO ONE’S TIME! KEF has done nothing wrong except try to help the GLBT community! Its people out there like you that has to ruin everything good that someone tries to do!
    Donate your time, energy, money to an organization and all you get is ridiculed! This figures.

  • 14 Dovie // Feb 18, 2009 at 6:39 pm

    Jake: you r nothing but a trouble maker and a homophobic!
    YOU MAKE ME SICK TO MY STOMACH!
    CAN PROVE EVERYTHING!
    It is people like you that want to trash everyone, perhaps someone should CHECK YOU OUT!
    A news reporter, what a joke!

  • 15 LAUGHINGATTORNEY // Feb 18, 2009 at 6:40 pm

    Laughing Attorney, prove yourself! Hide behind a fake name. WHAT A JOKE!

  • 16 Dovie // Feb 18, 2009 at 6:44 pm

    By the way the people that contact KEF for assistance those names are anonymous. You would really like it if that was told wouldn’t you that way you could ridicule them too! KEF has NOTHING TO PROVE TO YOU JAKE! You are pathetic, seriously don’t you have anything better to do with your time than this!

    BOTTOM LINE: CAN’T KEEP A GOOD GUY DOWN! you would like nothing more than to try and get KEF shut down. YOUR PRIMARY GOAL AND THAT IS ALL!
    YOU MAKE ME SICK!

  • 17 jake // Feb 18, 2009 at 6:44 pm

    Folks, please read before commenting. And do not use more than one screenname from the same IP Address (cough, Nancy & Dovie, Cough).

    Author : Dovie (IP: 69.21.177.64 , h69-21-177-64.hydnky.dsl.dynamic.tds.net)
    E-mail : fiends_1960@yahoo.com

    Nancy Couch (IP: 69.21.177.64 , h69-21-177-64.hydnky.dsl.dynamic.tds.net)
    E-mail : couch_0608@yahoo.com

    LAUGHINGATTORNEY (IP: 69.21.177.64 , h69-21-177-64.hydnky.dsl.dynamic.tds.net)
    E-mail : desiredluck2000@gmail.com

    The “fake attorney” is referenced in past stories where there was no way to prove Jordan’s alleged attorney was real, as they were not a member of the Kentucky Bar (or any bar in the U.S.).

    If KEF has done nothing wrong, Jordan could have provided us with a response when it was requested and he could have proved it. He still has the extended opportunity to share his side of the story, which he has yet to do. He HAS, however, caused a potential problem for himself and the KEF by trashing the OAG and threatening ME and MY COMPANY.

    Yeah, I’m totally out to ruin everyone. Which is why I give my time, money, energy and effort to this particular cause on a DAILY basis.

    We’re SO HOMOPHOBIC! Because we’re not gayer than a $3 bill or anything.

  • 18 Tre Bon // Feb 18, 2009 at 6:44 pm

    My fat ass wife (now ex) sued me for deprivation when I pad locked the refrigerator door.

  • 19 Dovie // Feb 18, 2009 at 6:46 pm

    Oh Jake you called Jordan Palmer sweeite, perhaps your anger comes from being an in the closet gay guy!

  • 20 what's the i stand for? // Feb 18, 2009 at 7:51 pm

    not to step in it, but if $$$ was awarded to gsblti groups, then why would time need to pass to see if the group would use it well, as jordan above claimed?

    isn’t that why money is offered — b/c they’ve already proven that they will use it well?

  • 21 Republican // Feb 18, 2009 at 7:52 pm

    The real news in this is the allegation that OAG is under investigation. If true, that might shut down Little Jackie Conway’s Senate campaign before it even gets started.

    Just too damn bad this didn’t happen circa Spring 2005, else Stumbo would have been busy keeping his own ass out of trouble instead of trying to bring down Ernie Fletcher. (Yeah, I’m STILL bitter about what was done to EF, so sue me… LOL)

  • 22 Republican // Feb 18, 2009 at 7:55 pm

    And … what was relevant about this on that US Justice Watch site, which seems to concern itself only with some counties in the Green River and Lake Cumberland areas?

  • 23 The Rev. // Feb 18, 2009 at 11:52 pm

    Let me put first as a disclaimer that I speak only for myself, and that these statements in no way are an official missive from the Murray State University Gay/Straight Alliance.

    As the former treasurer of the Murray State Alliance, I can say that I, personally, see nothing wrong with the OAG investigating your joke of a foundation. KEF has always been at best well-intentioned and at worst utterly ineffective. Jacob, my understanding of your outfit is that its your way of wooing politically inclined club folk so you can boost your dating chances, and little else.

    As for the money, I was treasurer when we were promised $1500 total. We recieved one check for $750, and a curt reply saying to give you time on the other half. Two and a half years later, we saw no money, but did see your apathy towards upholding obligations.
    Thank GOD that I am a stingy mutha or else our group would have dug itself a very deep hole. You know, that was when we were trying to get Sexual Orientation added to our school’s non-discrimination policy. Can you imagine the difference that money could’ve made, how much easier it would’ve been to actually have the cash for a PR campaign?

    At the very best, you have promised our GSA’s hope for the funds to make change on our campuses and neglected to uphold your agreement. I didn’t trust free money, but some other GSA’s did, and you screwed them entirely.

    If anyone here is bad for the community, it is you, Jacob. Your little dog and pony show gave false hope to groups and then crippled them when you failed to hold up your end of the bargain.

    I won’t lie. Personally, I’m glad to see you investigated. I hope criminal charges for failure to uphold a contract are filed. Your entire organization’s name is mud to most of us at the Alliance, and frankly, we’ve come to regard you as somewhere between a joke and a complete douchebag.

    Hooray for equality. Boo for community drama. And shame on those who cause it.

    The Rev.

    P.S. You MSU people should know me by that moniker.

  • 24 jake // Feb 19, 2009 at 12:08 am

    Hrm. Interesting that anyone would bring up the club – something I hate. Haven’t been to a club or bar since 2000 and frequently preach that it’s the downfall of society– young people being whorish and trashy. But nice try. Anyone who knows me– especially gay people and those in the political scene– know it’s something I’m majorly opposed to. Even people who read this site on a regular basis could figure that out.

    I’ve been in a relationship for quite a while now. I think that the person I spend nearly every waking moment with/communicating with would know if I’m in the clubs and trying to get a piece of ass, right? And before this relationship, I was dating someone for 2/3 of a decade. Again, nice try.

    What false hope and what groups, “Steven”? Don’t make the accusation if you’re full of shit or can’t back your argument up. I’m in the position I’m in today because I’ve raised millions of dollars for political organizations, non-profits and religious organizations. So again, nice try.

    Some of you bitter queens need a wake-up. Hopefully watching Jordan Palmer’s faux organization go down in such publicly sickening flames will be it? Keep on trashing people, keep on making shit up, keep on with your apathy… and you’ll never have the rights and equality you think you deserve.

  • 25 anon // Feb 19, 2009 at 12:03 pm

    Jake, you are one sick individual. Your entire active life seems to be involved in HATE and the GAY MOVEMENT.

    I bet a lot of Gay people wish you were not no visible, as you pollute the movement with your bullshit and apparent HATE. Get some help Jake. Get some help.

    Get a life or get out of town.

    ANON.

  • 26 jake // Feb 19, 2009 at 12:10 pm

    A sick individual for reporting corruption? Really?

    And hate? Yeah, standing up to bigots and never shutting up is certainly hateful.

    I bet a lot of people in Frankfort would skin you alive if you weren’t a coward hiding behind a fake screenname, right? Is that why you’re afraid to address me as yourself?

    If you don’t like it, don’t read it.

  • 27 anon // Feb 19, 2009 at 12:21 pm

    You know Jake, your mouth is so much larger than your brain, probably an assest.

    For you to try and intmidate someone on this blog is a big joke, Most people who stop by here occasionally will always be greeted by some hate message from you and then a threat.

    Where do you come off as being so powerful?

    You are not and most what you spill is just plain dunk.

    A LOT OF PEOPLE WOULD SKIN ME ALIVE.

    Jake, you are so overbearing and stupidly distasteful. And if you were to take you computer and disapear . . . I doubt that you would be missed, except by those of like thinking and a “pissed off attitude.”

    Your influence is limited and you you sure do seem to feel you words are very, very important.

    When, actually they are not, to most, but you like to see you name, so keep writing and readers will continue to see you as A VERY TROUBLED PERSON.

    ANON #2

  • 28 anon // Feb 19, 2009 at 12:25 pm

    JP
    You are not reporting corruption, you are entertaining yourself and stroking . . . .

    YOUR EGO.

    Anon3

  • 29 jake // Feb 19, 2009 at 12:25 pm

    Regular readers of this site can figure out for themselves that we don’t threaten. Though, we do out bigots and asshats who do and say ignorant crap on the site, much as you are doing without any room to speak.

    Who said I was powerful?

    Glad to know someone in Frankfort thinks I’m overbearing and stupidly distasteful. That’s a major compliment. What’s funny, really, is that you don’t have to read the site if you don’t like it… but you still read it and still comment.

    That’s me – a dangerously contagious homo with tons of troubles! Ha.

    Thanks for commenting and jacking up our pageviews, making us money.

  • 30 jake // Feb 19, 2009 at 12:30 pm

    For someone who thinks I’m terrible and irrelevant, you sure do go to great lengths to not only read this site and comment on it, but to pretend you’re three different people:

    ANON – anon | anon@gmail.com | IP: 67.131.63.21 – Feb 19, 12:03 PM

    ANON #2 – anon | anon@gmail.com | IP: 67.131.63.21- Feb 19, 12:21 PM

    Anon3 – anon | anon@gmail.com | IP: 67.131.63.21 – Feb 19, 12:25 PM

    What’s more interesting? Your writing style is exactly like that of creepy old man Jim Anderson Stivers. And you’ve got the same IP address as him:

    Jim Anderson Stivers | jstivers@fewpb.net | IP: 67.131.63.21

    Click here to check out a comment from yesterday that uses the same IP address and writing style.

    If you’re going to attack me, don’t be so ignorant.

  • 31 Jim Anderson Stivers // Feb 19, 2009 at 12:44 pm

    Jake, you got it. Way to go!

    jstivers@fewpb.net

    I knew you would go to the trouble to print my IP address, that is why I sent it as ANON. This only shows your degree of hate, JAKE.

    Why have ANON posting Jake if you are going to show the IP of everyone that give you some crap?

    Your attacks on OTHERS and your sick manner in replying is very noticeable. And, a good thing you and others own this sight. Your post, by acceptable human behavior would not be welcome among the MORE CIVIL .

  • 32 E // Feb 19, 2009 at 12:51 pm

    So, Anon…
    What would you have Jake be, just another compliant, ‘never piss anyone off’ media-type?

    I despise the SOB (standard operational bullshit) of most politics.
    We have deficits exploding, politicians grandstanding, lies and deception permeating all levels of our leadership municipal and private sectors, incompetents managing our tax and charitable dollars, and the Constitution being treated like an irrelevant artifact. Does that not piss you off?

    I’m glad someone (like Jake) with a substantial audience is as pissed off and defiant enough to challenge the status quo and out the bullshit.

    The incompetent, corrupt, and full of shit deserve nothing less than to be excoriated accordingly.

  • 33 Jim Anderson Stivers // Feb 19, 2009 at 12:51 pm

    I see you placed my comments on APPROVAL IS WAITING. Can’t take it Jake, then turn off the PC.

    Others very well feel similar to my comments but most won’t reply because once someone disagrees with you Jake, yo spend the entire day trying to get the upper hand on the blog.

    Yes, I post here . . . . I do believe it is called PUBLIC DOMAIN? But if all that is ever offered by you is hate, then maybe, probably I am just wasting my time.

    And, so are you JAKE. People see thru you just like a PAYNE. And you performance is consistently hate and anger.

    JIM ANDERSON STIVERS
    howz dat, dude?

  • 34 jake // Feb 19, 2009 at 12:53 pm

    Why offer anonymous comments as an option? Because some people are complete fucking morons who abuse the privilege.

    You do stupid shit, you get exposed. That’s how we’ve operated for two years.

    Take your medication, Stivers. Seriously. I let your crazy shenanigans slide a year ago when you attacked everyone at Kentucky Democratic Headquarters– you accused everyone of being Jerry Lundergan’s lackeys and went on a tirade about how gambling would kill everyone– but no longer.

    You’re fucking insane and I’m pretty sure everyone who was in attendance with me that day could back me up. Joe Sonka, Ben Ray, Ralph Long, Rick Redding, Jeremy Horton, Jennifer Moore, Allison Haley, et al.

    We all remember when you wrongly attacked Allison Haley at that meeting after you’d pressured her for months to treat you as a journalist. And how you wrongly attacked the now-disgraced Chair for some inane reason I do not currently recall.

    You have the nerve to suggest that I’m not civil after spending years attacking people for no apparent reason? Niiiice.

    I went to the trouble of pointing out who you are because you’ve pulled bullshit personal attacks like this for two years. Inevitably, you always remember to take your meds and send me an email like two days later (each time) to tell me how great Page One is and how remarkable I am and that you’re sorry. I could publish all of those emails if you’d like. They’re like 50-pages-long each and are nearly unbearable to read. I’ve forwarded a ton of them to Sonka over the years so I’m sure he’d be happy to back that up.

    Anyway, thanks for pulling bullshit like this. I look forward to constantly outing people who perpetrate unfounded attacks.

    (Something else: You always lose your shit on me every time I say something positive about gambling. Can’t wait til it’s legal so I can watch you spew like crazy.)

  • 35 Jim Anderson Stivers // Feb 19, 2009 at 12:54 pm

    I see you screen your replies JAKE.

    THAT IS FEAR FACTOR.

    And to the Rah, Rah, for Jake. hmmm.
    SUBSTANTIAL AUDIENCE?

    GET REAL.

  • 36 jake // Feb 19, 2009 at 12:57 pm

    To respond to yet another comment from batshit insane Stivers:

    Our comment system automatically placed you on moderated status for attempting to leave more than five comments in a row in less than one minute.

    Contrary to the crap you just said, hundreds of people leave comments disagreeing with me and criticizing me each and every day. They’re never outed or attacked because they do so reasonably and with honesty. They don’t fabricate bullshit or personally attack me.

    Again, take your medication.

    P.S. Repeatedly spamming is illegal.

  • 37 Jim Anderson Stivers // Feb 19, 2009 at 1:00 pm

    As I say again, Jake, . . . you have a problem. Your pals can unload on me all they want, . . .

    And what you say about the meeting . . . wonder why the current chair is in trouble with her ability to lead.

    I am done this will just become more volatile.
    And frankly it is not worth it.

    Readers will continue to see you as just want you are .. .one sick individual . . . your trash talk and your words speak for you.

  • 38 The Rev. // Feb 19, 2009 at 1:02 pm

    I would like to offer a brief apology. In my drowsiness last night, I mixed up names in my previous post. My frustration with KEF and their fraudulent funding remains, but any personal attacks I made were uncalled for. Furthermore, I mixed up Jacob and Jordan, which I am VERY sorry for.

    I remain personally angry at KEF for this whole incident, but I apologize for any confusing claims.

    I would also like to reiterate that I speak only for myself, and that my organization on the whole may or may not have a different opinion of the whole issue. .

  • 39 Jim Anderson Stivers // Feb 19, 2009 at 1:02 pm

    Jake, you are lieing.

    I did not place more than five comments in that period of time.

    You pulled the IP address because you were pissed. Some upstanding person you are.

    I am done Jake, try someone else now.

    Jim Anderson Stivers

  • 40 jake // Feb 19, 2009 at 1:06 pm

    The Rev: Thank you for your clarification. There’s no real need to apologize, though, especially since it was an honest mistake.

  • 41 jaded dude // Feb 19, 2009 at 1:06 pm

    Damn, Jake! You haven’t been to ANY bars since 2000? Man, some of the best political commentary of all can be heard in a neighborhood dive. But, with Shack around, I guess you don’t need to go to a bar to hear alcohol fueled rants!
    I just got back from Ocala, Florida. I picked up a wood chipper for my friend. Drove his worn out 1994 diesel F250 down and back. As I drove up the Pennyrile Parkway, even with all the broken tree limbs, I thought about how much more beautiful Kentucky is than anywhere else between here and Ocala. Too bad our moronic politicians, like mountain hating Jim “in god we trust” Gooch, Gary Tapp Tapp Tapp, and gay marriage banning co-sponsor Dan Mongiardo do their selfish best to ruin our society.
    Lastly, if you do decide to go to a bar, the Mag bar is hard to beat. Mixed crowd, good non-internet jukebox, strong drinks, and a great staff. Awesome location in Old Louisville too!

  • 42 jake // Feb 19, 2009 at 1:09 pm

    Stivers:

    Here are the times your IP address attempted to leave commentary, resulting in the auto-moderation by WordPress:

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    Good luck in life.

  • 43 jake // Feb 19, 2009 at 1:12 pm

    I must correct my earlier statement. I was in the Mag Bar for a drink in roughly 2003 (an female appearing to be in her 40s urinated on the floor that evening) and at Spring Street Bar & Grill in 2006 & 2008, though I don’t think of it as a bar and was there for fatty fried foods. (Thanks to the folks who reminded me)

  • 44 jaded dude // Feb 19, 2009 at 1:19 pm

    40 something females urinating on the floor?!
    Awesome!! I love Louisville!!!

  • 45 jake // Feb 19, 2009 at 1:20 pm

    Indeed. I’m so disappointed in myself for forgetting that night until just now.

  • 46 Jim Anderson Stivers // Feb 19, 2009 at 1:31 pm

    I can’t image that Jake! But, since you are the owner and OTHERS the poster you have access to information. As to how many times . . .

    I amazed that I read something, probably by others, on Page One I felt a comment.

  • 47 jaded dude // Feb 19, 2009 at 2:10 pm

    “I amazed that I read something, probably by others, on Page One I felt a comment.”
    Talk about alcohol fueled!
    Man, weren’t you done like three of your comments ago?

  • 48 Jim Anderson Stivers // Feb 19, 2009 at 2:23 pm

    I assume you are unaware of the posting problem with WP. Those were the same post returned for lack of id or the key word.

    Now done!

  • 49 jaded dude // Feb 19, 2009 at 4:11 pm

    Good!
    BTW, I am totally serious about selfish politicians.
    In 2004, Dan Mongiardo co-sponsored a bill, trampling the rights of a large number of Kentuckians, just to selfishly further his political career.
    I hope Democrats remember that conservatives came out in force to vote for Mongiardo’s Amendment, undoubtedly contributing to the loss of numerous Democratic candidates.
    Incumbent Democrat Roger Thomas lost to Jim Decesare by less than 200 votes.
    Incumbent Democrat Dottie Simms lost to Terri Shelton by less than 900 votes.
    These two, plus hard-working candidates Barry Cannon and David Eaton and many other Democrats throughout Kentucky never had a chance that year because of the hateful Amendment Dan Mongiardo co-sponsored.
    Please remember that during next year’s Primary!

  • 50 Tyler Durden // Feb 19, 2009 at 6:01 pm

    Damn…Jim Stivers is looney tunes brah.

  • 51 jake // Feb 19, 2009 at 6:01 pm

    P.S. Stivers – No, there’s no bug in WordPress. It’s a totally customized and up-to-date version. Each of those comments you left were different, not the same thing over and over.

    Move along, now.

  • 52 Jim Anderson Stivers // Feb 20, 2009 at 8:26 am

    Jake, Welcome to Thursday………

    I have a friend that old me he would council with you for your problems. And, at no charge.

    If I were as sick as you Jake, I would take the offer. You are truly a sick puppy!

    JIM ANDERSON STIVERS

  • 53 Just me // Feb 20, 2009 at 9:07 am

    Jimbo, thought you were done?

  • 54 Taylor // Feb 20, 2009 at 11:10 am

    Stivers- there’s an amendment to the old saying that goes: “if you don’t have something nice or funny to say, don’t say anything at all” – work on your jokes before insulting people…

  • 55 Hillary // Feb 20, 2009 at 1:54 pm

    Jesus Chris, Jim. Don’t you have a life?

  • 56 Wild Kat // Aug 9, 2009 at 3:46 am

    Palmer is a liability and embarrassment to the GLBT community. Nobody takes him seriously, at least not more than once. He made Marriage Equality USA look stupid when they listed Palmer on the board of Directors and posted his bio on their web site. The bio was comical as it stated he was a successful business man and CEO of several successful companies, including Merus Holding Corporation. Someone eventually pointed out to Marriage Equality USA that Palmer was full of crap and that Merus was a joke of a business that went broke in 2006 and is listed in “Bad” standing with the Kentucky Secretary of State. My guess is that is why he was removed from the Board of Marriage Equality USA. The only thing Palmer can run consistently is his mouth, and even that id done poorly. Palmer is a liability and embarrassment. He and his mom, Nancy Couch, should be tarred and feathered, proverbially speaking, of course.

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