23 responses so far ↓

• 1 TJ // Dec 15, 2008 at 6:44 pm

  No offense Jake, but I don’t see how hammering Mongiardo’s lack of tolerance helps in this particular case. His public stance on these issues has to be a political plus in Kentucky. I’m all for standing on principle, but the overwhelming majority of voters agree with Mongiardo… And in the majority (especially on gay marriage) is where a politician running statewide wants to be.

• 2 jake // Dec 15, 2008 at 6:47 pm

  No offense, but I’m not here to make anything easy on anybody to help any cause or case.

  And being where the majority of Kentuckians stood after millions of dollars of Six Flags Over Jesus funds were pumped into the state (2004), doesn’t make it right or okay.

  Pushing wedge issues like this is far worse than taking a stance when asked a question.

• 3 James R. // Dec 15, 2008 at 7:20 pm

  Daniel Mongardio will not be the Democratic Nominee against Jim Bunning or any Republican.

• 4 Jim // Dec 15, 2008 at 7:55 pm

  Im trying to figure out where the hatred and homophobia is in this article or from Mr. Mongiardo. Interestingly, it was Elizabeth Tori the Republican that once made a very hateful remark toward Mr. Mongiardo in the 2004 election. I won’t repeat that slur here but you can always google it.

  As far as ones personal viewpoint goes, I see no problem with stating you are against gay marriage if that is truly your viewpoint. Marriage was never an institution that was supporting of the gay rights movement and that institution has been recognized for close to 6000 years. Thats not the issue though, should we call two men or two women marrying a marriage or should it be a civil union since it is not a definition of marriage. Because if I am correct, it could very well be a civil union with full property rights, civil rights, and constitutional rights and full issuance of state support without being called a marriage. At which you can change your name, get health benefits, get a job, or whatever. That in that way does not change the institution of marriage yet allows gay citizens to profess their love for their partner in a legal manner.

  However, you do have a right to participate in your own endeavors behind your own doors and have whatever friends you may want. Thats not being anti gay or hateful its just basic common courtesy.

  What one does in their own day to day affairs behind closed doors or in the public within reason of not violating nudity or obscenity laws is ones own business. That doesn’t give you any more right to act outside of the laws of this state or any locality. What I might add is this writer really doesn’t care what you do as long as someone else isn’t being willfully violated. Which means that two people that do this have the same rights as anyone else and conduct their business as they see fit. Which would be a truly common sense solution

• 5 jake // Dec 15, 2008 at 8:09 pm

  Im trying to figure out where the hatred and homophobia is in this article or from Mr. Mongiardo. Interestingly, it was Elizabeth Tori the Republican that once made a very hateful remark toward Mr. Mongiardo in the 2004 election. I won’t repeat that slur here but you can always google it.

  Who said the article was homophobic or contained hatred? We’re talking about Daniel Mongiardo and his actions from 2004 to current. If you bother to read what we actually wrote, you’ll see that we reference SB 245 and other crap he’s pulled.

  Oh, and I’m pretty sure this isn’t a slur:

  On a campaign stop earlier this week, State Senate president David Williams referred to Mongiardo as a “limp wrist.” State Senator Elizabeth Tori said “I’m not even sure the word ‘man’ applies to him.”

  Turning like he did after Republicans hinted that he was gay is called “gay panic.” When a heterosexual flips their shiz because someone is gay, usually after being teased or getting spooked by the queers.

• 6 Bimbeau // Dec 15, 2008 at 11:22 pm

  Homophobia should disqualify anyone in either party for consideration.

  Popularity for a political posture is not cause to support the popular posture. Throughout the 50′s, 60′s and most of the 70′s southern states advocated voting for civil and other rights for people of color. Once again I remind the under-educated that this is a republic where the rights of all minorities are provided equal protection under the law and access to the bar to redress grievances.

• 7 Ryan // Dec 16, 2008 at 12:32 am

  Daniel Mongiardo is the only democrat that I have ever not voted for (I didn’t vote for Bunning, I abstained). The fact that he brought his hatred to legislation pissed me off to an incredible extent. The idea that that amendment brought an estimated 2 extra voters per precinct, coupled with the fact that he lost by an average of one vote per precinct, made me smile. His own hatred and stupidity cost him the race. He is not right for Kentucky and is a wolf in sheep’s clothing.

• 8 anon // Dec 16, 2008 at 8:09 am

  - – - or a sheep in wolf’s clothing.

• 9 Shack // Dec 16, 2008 at 9:20 am

  cry babbies. when someone disagrees you cry cry cry

• 10 anon // Dec 16, 2008 at 10:04 am

  Here some song lyrics for Mr. Shackleford:

  Everybody knows where you go when the sun goes down.
  I think you only live to see the lights of town.
  I wasted my time when I would try, try, try.
  When the lights have lost their glow, you’re gonna CRY, CRY, CRY!

  I lie awake at night and wait ’til you come in.
  You stay a little while and then you’re gone again.
  Every question that I ask, I get a lie, lie, lie.
  For every lie you tell, you’re gonna CRY, CRY, CRY!

  You’re gonna cry, cry, cry and you’ll cry alone,
  When everyone’s forgotten and you’re left on your own.
  You’re gonna CRY, CRY, CRY!.

  Soon your sugar-daddies will all be gone.
  You’ll wake up some cold day and find you’re alone.
  You’ll call to me but I’m gonna tell you: “Bye, bye, bye,”
  When I turn around and walk away, you’ll CRY, CRY, CRY!

  When your fickle little love gets old, no one will care for you.
  You’ll come back to me for a little love that’s true.
  I’ll tell you no and you gonna ask me why, why, why?
  When I remind you of all of this, you’ll CRY, CRY, CRY!

  You’re gonna cry, cry, cry and you’ll cry alone,
  When everyone’s forgotten and you’re left on your own.
  You’re gonna CRY, CRY, CRY!

  You’re gonna cry, cry, cry and you’ll want me there,
  It’ll hurt when you think of the fool you’ve been.
  You’re gonna CRY, CRY, CRY!

• 11 Terri // Dec 16, 2008 at 10:21 am

  “cry babbies. when someone disagrees you cry cry cry”

  Sounds like someone is smitten with Jakey-poo!

• 12 Shack // Dec 16, 2008 at 10:36 am

  Smitten, no not at all, just defending Daniel, period. When you’re a smart ass one usually acts like one.

• 13 briansmith // Dec 16, 2008 at 2:40 pm

  Sorry Shack, if you want to prove you’re not smitten with jake you have to shave off your YMCA mustache, procure a child bride and then whip up some anti-gay legislation. It seems to have worked before…

• 14 schankula // Dec 16, 2008 at 3:39 pm

  hey shack, this meltdown you’re on here is fantastic.

• 15 John // Dec 16, 2008 at 10:42 pm

  Jim- Marriage has not been an institution for 6000 years, not as it is today. It was originally an institution for the wealthy, aristocrats. Peasants did not have official marriages. It was often a property arrangement (marriage was the recognition that the woman had moved from her father’s property to her husbands). It at times was not between one man and one woman (not just the Mormons, there are plenty of bigamist societies and religions out there). It was at times only for whites.

  So saying it’s a tradition and why fuck with it is a little simplistic. Also, the whole civil union idea is a straw man argument. Notice that every amendment they put on the ballot bans not only gay marriage but anything seeking to recreate marriage under another name. The bigots throw the civil union out there as an excuse for the people in the middle who are uneasy being bigots, but don’t want to admit it.

• 16 Larry Kenter // Dec 18, 2008 at 10:19 pm

  Hey guys, there’s a woman named Darlene Price that has already announced that she is a democrat candidate against Jim Bunning. She’s already gotten alot of support from veterans, cops, unions and women’s organizations. She’s a former federal investigator and government corruption whistle blower. Check out her web site, it’s very impressive: http://www.Darlene4Senate.com

• 17 jake // Dec 18, 2008 at 10:22 pm

  Hahaha!

• 18 Mike Bailey // Dec 19, 2008 at 10:23 pm

  I spoke with Darlene, and I think she is very sharp. Unfortunately her wardrobe and website are not sharp, and her campaign staff and volunteers are not interested in feedback to correct those image problems. The atrocious website and dated outfits distract us from Darlene’s message. She can’t compete with Mongiardo or Conway or Crit in any case, but if she cut a more modern figure and had a decent site and some good staff, she could get her whistle-blower issues out into the public eye and maybe get the eventual nominee to adopt those issues. If something does not change in her campaign, she will end up fading into the background – which would be a shame.

• 19 Austin Price // Jan 23, 2009 at 5:39 pm

  Mr. Bailey you have never spoken to Darlene. It was I who responded to your email request to be a paid consultant on Darlene’s campaign. I agree with your comment that Darlene is very sharp, and that is why she is needed in Washington. The rest of your comment seems disingenuous when compared with the overwhelmingly positive feed back regarding Darlene, her website and campaign in general. Don’t lose sight of what is really important: to send qualified people to Washington who will vote our interest.

• 20 jake // Jan 24, 2009 at 11:26 am

  Austin Price–

  That’s bullshit and a flat-out lie. Mike Bailey did not request to be a paid consultant – or even to be a consultant. I’ve read those emails. You call yourself an attorney but I’m pretty sure you need to check yourself before moving forward.

  Darlene has not gotten overwhelmingly positive feedback. People are laughing their asses off at her and she is not being taken seriously. And she’s hardly qualified to go to Washington. She’s considered a fringe candidate and likely won’t even be invited to debates and forums.

  ANYWAY… let’s take a look at those emails (which I normally wouldn’t publish without getting permission first, but you’re full of shit and flat-out lying), the first of which Mike sent after you and Darlene went out of your way to request a meeting with him and solicited his feedback:

  Darlene,

  Dr. Kelley and I greatly enjoyed meeting you, and were very impressed with you in person. We love the way you fight corruption and the “pay to play” system. We think you are tough and principled. Jack Conway and Dan Mongiardo will likely enter this primary. (By the way, when they get in, are you planning on sticking it out? )

  I have some questions about issues that are not on your website. I’m not really looking for yes or no answers, but reasoned opinions on how you will deal with the wedge issues such as abortion, separation of church and state, gays, and guns. … I’d like to hear how you feel about those cultural hot-button issues, and how you will deal with them.

  Also, would you be willing to sit with Dr. Kelley and discuss healthcare policy together? He has over a decade or real-world experience that tells him that both Obama and McCain are getting it wrong with their current proposals. He would be willing to help you come up with a workable solution and practice talking about it.

  I’d also like to offer some non-issue feedback about your campaign. I offer this as constructive criticism, not to tear down anyone’s efforts to date. I want to re-state that we are very impressed with your intellect, charisma, and positions thus far. The suggestions I offer here are only meant to improve upon your excellent foundation.

  1. Always take off sunglasses when meeting folks. They want to make eye contact.

  2. Update your wardrobe. It is time to update your wardrobe and to remove images on your front page that show you in out-dated clothing. Image management is an unfortunate reality of campaigns. You are incredibly sharp, and your wardrobe should reflect that. Sarah Palin is a perfect example of the kind of outfits you should be wearing.

  3. Update your website. Websites are like clothing (that image thing again.) Websites need to be modern and sharp in order to reflect how sharp YOU are.

  4. When your website is finalized, it would be good if your business cards, flyers, and other gear synergized with the site (similar fonts, colors, etc.) This causes folks to associate your campaign with the “brand” that you are reinforcing. Look at Obama gear. It almost always uses colors and fonts and styles that synergize with the website.

  Darlene, if you are interested in talking about the race, please let me know. Again, we were very impressed with you as a person and we think that with a bit of image work, you will give a good accounting of yourself in the primary. Please respond about the cultural wedge issues as well.

  Mike Bailey

  Now let’s look at the jackassery you sent back:

  Dear Mr. Bailey,

  Thank you so much for your interest in our candidate. We are very pleased at how Darlene’s campaign is skyrocketing! Her message and story of her ten year fight against high-level government corruption has certainly resonated across Kentucky. In just the few weeks that her campaign began Darlene has already spoken in front over two thousand Kentuckians, at over 20 events. Moreover, Darlene continues to be invited to speak at numerous other events/groups by the people who hear her story.

  While we appreciate your interest and helpful hints, Darlene’s Committee already has consultants in those areas that we are very happy with. Darlene looks forward to working with all candidates and representatives in the future, and we hope that your interest and support will continue. We look forward to seeing you on the campaign trail!!

  Sincerely,

  Austin Price, Esquire
  Campaign Chairman

  Larry King
  Co-Chair and Campaign Manager

  These messages, sent in mid-October 2008, are truly revealing. Mike Bailey sent very positive comments and suggestions for improvement (like Darlene’s horrendously awful website) and you blew him off. You made up some crap about Darlene already having “consultants” who help her with her image and that you’re happy with them.

  I’m pretty sure I don’t even need to make a comment. Your awkward response speaks for itself.

• 21 BigJohn // Aug 8, 2009 at 2:55 pm

  Sounds like Jake is a queer!

• 22 jake // Aug 8, 2009 at 3:23 pm

  What a surprise! Who knew?

• 23 briansmith // Aug 10, 2009 at 6:58 pm

  good times…

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