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	<title>Comments on: Breaking: Felner and Schroeder More Than Friends? And Other Updates On the Scandal</title>
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		<title>By: notshocked</title>
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		<dc:creator>notshocked</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 02:59:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CEHD is not the only Department at UofL that needs an overhaul, the Kentucky pollution prevention center needs to be investigated.  They are so arrogant that they won&#039;t allow themselves to even be called a department.  They currently have lawsuits against them and have one of the  highest turnover in employees at the university.  They have a board of directors that you would expect to question the high turnover, along with the dean of the speed school who is also on the board of directors and where the kentucky pollution prevention center is housed.  The dean , repeatedly turns a blind eye to anything and everything going on there solidifying that &quot;the bottom line&quot; is all that matters&quot;.   If there is an ambitious reporter out there willing to do some digging, they may find a story that will rival the CEHD&#039;s.    Affirmative Action will not buck up against them, oops!, they don&#039;t buck up against any department, only the least defensive, staff.  Staff has no one there that will stand up for them or fight for their rights.  Bad evaluations can be given at the whim of a supervisor with no repercussions even when you can prove a supervisor has lied.  Many government agencies are going to a reversible evaluation process, that may level the playing field a little more in the workplace.  Information has been sent to the powers-that-be only to be thrown in a garbage can or buried underneath things that are considered more important.  Owsley, Ralston and Johnson constantly dodge any responsiblity for making decisions and run to avoid even being approached.  Come on somebody at UofL, grow some balls and start fighting to protect all employees......not the just ones bringing in that almighty dollar.    Everyone realizes that the money is needed to keep the university functioning, but the cost of high turnover rates in hiring new employees, training and retraining employees doesn&#039;t come cheap.  If nothing else, Felner has proven that Administration can screw over the university as well as the staff that they keep holding to the higher standards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CEHD is not the only Department at UofL that needs an overhaul, the Kentucky pollution prevention center needs to be investigated.  They are so arrogant that they won&#8217;t allow themselves to even be called a department.  They currently have lawsuits against them and have one of the  highest turnover in employees at the university.  They have a board of directors that you would expect to question the high turnover, along with the dean of the speed school who is also on the board of directors and where the kentucky pollution prevention center is housed.  The dean , repeatedly turns a blind eye to anything and everything going on there solidifying that &#8220;the bottom line&#8221; is all that matters&#8221;.   If there is an ambitious reporter out there willing to do some digging, they may find a story that will rival the CEHD&#8217;s.    Affirmative Action will not buck up against them, oops!, they don&#8217;t buck up against any department, only the least defensive, staff.  Staff has no one there that will stand up for them or fight for their rights.  Bad evaluations can be given at the whim of a supervisor with no repercussions even when you can prove a supervisor has lied.  Many government agencies are going to a reversible evaluation process, that may level the playing field a little more in the workplace.  Information has been sent to the powers-that-be only to be thrown in a garbage can or buried underneath things that are considered more important.  Owsley, Ralston and Johnson constantly dodge any responsiblity for making decisions and run to avoid even being approached.  Come on somebody at UofL, grow some balls and start fighting to protect all employees&#8230;&#8230;not the just ones bringing in that almighty dollar.    Everyone realizes that the money is needed to keep the university functioning, but the cost of high turnover rates in hiring new employees, training and retraining employees doesn&#8217;t come cheap.  If nothing else, Felner has proven that Administration can screw over the university as well as the staff that they keep holding to the higher standards.</p>
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		<title>By: beyung</title>
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		<dc:creator>beyung</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 21:26:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Always amazed - you wrote
&quot;Beyung - I know there is great wisdom in the “forgive and forget” philosophy, but when there are situations involving people whose careers and financial status were affected by Felner’s illegal actions, they need to know that they have the legitimate right to due process&quot;
here. 

You are right, and you should take legal action if you feel it will do any good at all.  The only point I was trying to make is that I let this man take over my life for a long time - I sought legal action - and was discouraged - so, I got a new job and turned to therapy.  Believe me, I&#039;m rooting for all of you to find some justice and make what you worked so hard to achieve both successful and peaceful.  I apoligize if I made this sound like it should just be &quot;forgive and forget&quot; - I know that&#039;s not possible.  Yet, I hope that 10 years from now - you will rarely think of RF.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Always amazed &#8211; you wrote<br />
&#8220;Beyung &#8211; I know there is great wisdom in the “forgive and forget” philosophy, but when there are situations involving people whose careers and financial status were affected by Felner’s illegal actions, they need to know that they have the legitimate right to due process&#8221;<br />
here. </p>
<p>You are right, and you should take legal action if you feel it will do any good at all.  The only point I was trying to make is that I let this man take over my life for a long time &#8211; I sought legal action &#8211; and was discouraged &#8211; so, I got a new job and turned to therapy.  Believe me, I&#8217;m rooting for all of you to find some justice and make what you worked so hard to achieve both successful and peaceful.  I apoligize if I made this sound like it should just be &#8220;forgive and forget&#8221; &#8211; I know that&#8217;s not possible.  Yet, I hope that 10 years from now &#8211; you will rarely think of RF.</p>
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		<title>By: jake</title>
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		<dc:creator>jake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 18:08:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s interesting and all, but it should be noted that Huber is one of the most honest and up-front USAs in the country.  I doubt his McConnell ties have much to do with this Felner investigation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s interesting and all, but it should be noted that Huber is one of the most honest and up-front USAs in the country.  I doubt his McConnell ties have much to do with this Felner investigation.</p>
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		<title>By: Always Amazed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Always Amazed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 17:20:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m just getting around to reading my Aug. 1st Louisville Sports Report and there is an interview with Mitch McConnell, where he talks about the great things happening at the UL McConnell Center and how he tailgates to all UL football games with Dave Huber, District Attorney. Yes it&#039;s the same one investigating Felner. Dave and Mitch are bestest buddies - frat brothers, etc. Hmmm. Interesting thing to know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m just getting around to reading my Aug. 1st Louisville Sports Report and there is an interview with Mitch McConnell, where he talks about the great things happening at the UL McConnell Center and how he tailgates to all UL football games with Dave Huber, District Attorney. Yes it&#8217;s the same one investigating Felner. Dave and Mitch are bestest buddies &#8211; frat brothers, etc. Hmmm. Interesting thing to know.</p>
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		<title>By: marie</title>
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		<dc:creator>marie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 06:07:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you SC, Jake, and Everyone...

I am so grateful for this blog and for all your work, concern, and effort, Jake. I can&#039;t express the difference it&#039;s made for me without some trace of melodrama. I feel safer and less alone. 
It&#039;s a life-saver.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you SC, Jake, and Everyone&#8230;</p>
<p>I am so grateful for this blog and for all your work, concern, and effort, Jake. I can&#8217;t express the difference it&#8217;s made for me without some trace of melodrama. I feel safer and less alone.<br />
It&#8217;s a life-saver.</p>
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		<title>By: SC</title>
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		<dc:creator>SC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 01:13:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marie

Your story does sound horribly familiar.  And reaffirms what I have observed many times -- administrators in higher education do not possess the leadership or management skills to be in the positions they are in.  For example, it would be unheard for an excellent scientist at GE who had invented and designed all the latest and greatest features on a new diswasher to become the CEO or CFO or COO of the dishwasher division unless that scientist also happened to possess some training, education, and experience in business, finance, human resource management, operations mangaement, and leadership.  But it appears to become a Dean and in effect the CEO of a multi-million dollar division of an institution of higher education, one can be an Educational Pyschologist with experience in writing grants, and a huge ego -- and be deemed qualified to manage and lead a workforce of 100&#039;s.  Clearly, this idea that success as an academic equates to the needed credentials to be an effective administrator in higher education, must be re-examined throughout higher education administration.  You know they actually have a degree program to for people who want to be higher education administrators.  Amazing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marie</p>
<p>Your story does sound horribly familiar.  And reaffirms what I have observed many times &#8212; administrators in higher education do not possess the leadership or management skills to be in the positions they are in.  For example, it would be unheard for an excellent scientist at GE who had invented and designed all the latest and greatest features on a new diswasher to become the CEO or CFO or COO of the dishwasher division unless that scientist also happened to possess some training, education, and experience in business, finance, human resource management, operations mangaement, and leadership.  But it appears to become a Dean and in effect the CEO of a multi-million dollar division of an institution of higher education, one can be an Educational Pyschologist with experience in writing grants, and a huge ego &#8212; and be deemed qualified to manage and lead a workforce of 100&#8242;s.  Clearly, this idea that success as an academic equates to the needed credentials to be an effective administrator in higher education, must be re-examined throughout higher education administration.  You know they actually have a degree program to for people who want to be higher education administrators.  Amazing.</p>
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		<title>By: marie</title>
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		<dc:creator>marie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 00:04:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wc, and everyone,

Not that I&#039;m feeling litigious, I would rather see in-depth coverage of this mess, but everyone hurt at the CEHD would hopefully have some safety in numbers. But as for what is or isn&#039;t a suable offense, again, as Give us a break put it: allowing people to exist in an environment that caused PTSD; somehow this can&#039;t be okay. Everyone knew - all up and down the chain. 

And trying to minimize it by quantifying it... that&#039;s precisely the argument they use to dispute your claims of working in a hostile environment. If you weren&#039;t yelled at that day, it can&#039;t be that bad.
But it&#039;s everything taken together over time, and ultimately, the stomach-churning anticipation of yet another &quot;meeting&quot; with no other purpose except to confuse and intimidate.
It is also policy changes/ policy made up on the spot, rules applied differently, withholding information, permanent assignments of time-consuming daily tasks that could be given to student workers and delay/prevent real work being done. It is having students do the opposite of priority work, getting anyone who is willing to drag their feet. My boss&#039;s best friend was the director&#039;s secretary and  life was all the more hellish for that. My supervisor never disciplined the students, made me do it; she befriended them, and exchanged CDs. Very professional. 

I saved selected emails with meeting notes or trainings to refer to when writing something for my review. Three months of those disappeared. 
OLT restored them for me. Nobody remembered anything like that ever happening
before.

But the worst thing, and it shouldn&#039;t be legal, is to go from getting &#039;superior&#039; reviews to an &#039;unsatisfactory,&#039; without having been written up once, in my ninth year, an entirely negative review necessitating for the first time in 20 years
an employee being put on the Performance Improvement Plan at Kornhauser Health Sciences Library.

This set off no bells or red flags. I, too, received a dismissive response from University Attorney Angela Koshewa. So with no severance, or unemployment benefits, or reference, I left. 
Much like many in the CEHD, I imagine.

The director had all along insisted that the matter remain &quot;internal&quot; and that there be no mediation.

It was the strangest and worst time I&#039;ve ever lived through. There are some great people there. But an awful lot of work doesn&#039;t get done.
No fire in the belly!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wc, and everyone,</p>
<p>Not that I&#8217;m feeling litigious, I would rather see in-depth coverage of this mess, but everyone hurt at the CEHD would hopefully have some safety in numbers. But as for what is or isn&#8217;t a suable offense, again, as Give us a break put it: allowing people to exist in an environment that caused PTSD; somehow this can&#8217;t be okay. Everyone knew &#8211; all up and down the chain. </p>
<p>And trying to minimize it by quantifying it&#8230; that&#8217;s precisely the argument they use to dispute your claims of working in a hostile environment. If you weren&#8217;t yelled at that day, it can&#8217;t be that bad.<br />
But it&#8217;s everything taken together over time, and ultimately, the stomach-churning anticipation of yet another &#8220;meeting&#8221; with no other purpose except to confuse and intimidate.<br />
It is also policy changes/ policy made up on the spot, rules applied differently, withholding information, permanent assignments of time-consuming daily tasks that could be given to student workers and delay/prevent real work being done. It is having students do the opposite of priority work, getting anyone who is willing to drag their feet. My boss&#8217;s best friend was the director&#8217;s secretary and  life was all the more hellish for that. My supervisor never disciplined the students, made me do it; she befriended them, and exchanged CDs. Very professional. </p>
<p>I saved selected emails with meeting notes or trainings to refer to when writing something for my review. Three months of those disappeared.<br />
OLT restored them for me. Nobody remembered anything like that ever happening<br />
before.</p>
<p>But the worst thing, and it shouldn&#8217;t be legal, is to go from getting &#8216;superior&#8217; reviews to an &#8216;unsatisfactory,&#8217; without having been written up once, in my ninth year, an entirely negative review necessitating for the first time in 20 years<br />
an employee being put on the Performance Improvement Plan at Kornhauser Health Sciences Library.</p>
<p>This set off no bells or red flags. I, too, received a dismissive response from University Attorney Angela Koshewa. So with no severance, or unemployment benefits, or reference, I left.<br />
Much like many in the CEHD, I imagine.</p>
<p>The director had all along insisted that the matter remain &#8220;internal&#8221; and that there be no mediation.</p>
<p>It was the strangest and worst time I&#8217;ve ever lived through. There are some great people there. But an awful lot of work doesn&#8217;t get done.<br />
No fire in the belly!</p>
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		<title>By: Blowin' in the Wind</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blowin' in the Wind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 23:10:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right.  And maybe each of them will give you an honorary degree for suggesting it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right.  And maybe each of them will give you an honorary degree for suggesting it.</p>
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		<title>By: Awake Now</title>
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		<dc:creator>Awake Now</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 22:22:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Postman--

What?!

Huh!?

It was bad, it is still bad, but huh?

Hey Blowin&#039; -- Maybe Yale, Auburn, Illinois, and Rhode Island would very much LIKE the story to go to the CHE.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Postman&#8211;</p>
<p>What?!</p>
<p>Huh!?</p>
<p>It was bad, it is still bad, but huh?</p>
<p>Hey Blowin&#8217; &#8212; Maybe Yale, Auburn, Illinois, and Rhode Island would very much LIKE the story to go to the CHE.</p>
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		<title>By: Blowin' in the Wind</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blowin' in the Wind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 20:00:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amen to the long and passionate comments above.
Unfortunately, it will be a cold day in hell before the Chronicle of Higher Ed does any investigative reporting: Yale, Auburn, Illinois, Rhode Island and Louisville--there are a lot of advertising $$ there--and what do you think keeps the Chronicle alive?????</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amen to the long and passionate comments above.<br />
Unfortunately, it will be a cold day in hell before the Chronicle of Higher Ed does any investigative reporting: Yale, Auburn, Illinois, Rhode Island and Louisville&#8211;there are a lot of advertising $$ there&#8211;and what do you think keeps the Chronicle alive?????</p>
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