Were Robert Felner and Tom Schroeder in a relationship? Email obtained by WHAS11′s Adam Walser seems to suggest so. And those emails suggest Felner and Schroeder were in collusion to swindle the University of Louisville out of hundreds of thousands of dollars.
Felner told Schroeder in an email that he was “terrified and nuts” about an IRS investigation. Some choice quotes from Felner: “the situation is getting real dicey,” “could lose my house and you too as your payments will be stopping.” According to what Felner said in emails to Schroeder, it appears that he knew his time was up at UofL.
Take a look at these excerpts from the WHAS11 piece at 5:30:

We’ll link you to the full story once it’s live on WHAS11′s website. In the meantime, here’s the print story. Update: Here’s the full story from WHAS11 – you’ll want to check it out.
Oh yeah– we told you Felner owned all kinds of expensive homes around the country. Who needs TWO houses in Florida? Who can afford them on a mere $250K/year salary from UofL? Does this mean Felner is a self-hating homosexual? Oh man, the questions this raises!
And I bet Anne Northup and Jim Ramsey wish to high heaven they hadn’t stepped into this stinky mess.
See the scandalous email exchanges between Robert Felner and Tom Schroeder after the jump… You won’t believe your eyes…
Subject: HELP
From: “Robert Felner” r0feln01@gwise.louisville.edu
Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2007 10:17:06 -0500
To: RICCATDS@aol.com
Hi Tom,
This is starting to completely destroy my break. I spent three days trying to get a loan – not fun and chaos – been getting yelled at by RI – have my whole group who are not going to get paid very angry with me-and now am hanging around waiting for a fed ex guy who is not coming. All on top of two years of waiting for an IRS thing that has me completely terrified and nuts as well as multiple contracts/earmarks that never come. I love ya to pieces but please, I need just a little reliability and follow through on this stuff – all I ask in return for the ability to get you paid….please….it is creating great havoc in my life…..and some in yours..
Hugs
me
Robert D. Felner, Ph.D.
Dean and Distinguished
University Scholar,
College of Education
and Human Development
University of Louisville
Louisville, Ky. 40292
r.felner@louisville.edu
voice: (502) 852-3235
fax: (502) 852-1464

From: “Robert Felner” r0feln01@gwise.louisville.edu
Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 15:40:17 -0500
To: RICCATDS@aol.comTom
I’m looking at a meeting in Chitown those dates-possible for you?
R
Robert D. Felner, Ph.D.
Dean and Distinguished
University Scholar,
College of Education
and Human Development
University of Louisville
Louisville, Ky. 40292
r.felner@louisville.edu
voice: (502) 852-3235
fax: (502) 852-1464

From: “Robert Felner” r0feln01@gwise.louisville.edu
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 14:14:47 -0500
To: RICCATDS@aol.comHI honey,
Next couple of weeks I am traveling-this was a great week but I understand about the weather> So, call me and we can try to find a time I am around.
Hugs
me
Robert D. Felner, Ph.D.
Dean and Distinguished
University Scholar,
College of Education
and Human Development
University of Louisville
Louisville, Ky. 40292
r.felner@louisville.edu
voice: (502) 852-3235
fax: (502) 852-1464
— RICCATDS@aol.com 2/16/2007 1:44 PM —
Robert:
I am interested in visiting the great cityof Louisville on Monday and Tuesday of next week. Is this a possibility with your schedule?
I will call your cell phone this afternoon and try to connect. The weather up here in this arctic wasteland has been awful this week.
Talk to you soon.
Tom

From: “Robert Felner” r0feln01@gwise.louisville.edu
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 09:43:01 -0500
To: RICCATDS@aol.comI called-call me
Robert D. Felner, Ph.D.
Dean and Distinguished
University Scholar,
College of Education
and Human Development
University of Louisville
Louisville, Ky. 40292
r.felner@louisville.edu
voice: (502) 852-3235
fax: (502) 852-1464
— — RICCATDS@aol.com 3/3/2008 3:36 PM —
Robert,
I am hoping to travel to Louisville to visit you later this week, if that fits into your outrageous schedule. Please let me know. I could arrive on Wednesday evening, and leave Friday in the morning.
Thank you and see you soon.
Tom

From: RICCATDS@aol.com
Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 10:27:50 -0500
To: r0feln01@gwise.louisville.eduRobert:
I have been trying to get in touch with you by hand held communications device. How are you? What do you think about the Yankees? Is Joe Girardi going to make it as Stenbrenner’s whipping boy? What did you think about the John Adams series on HBO? Don’t you feel the show depicted Adams as over the top sensitive, paranoid and insecure? Where are you and when does your schedule accomodate a visit from your old friend? Let me know, and take care.
Tom

From: “Robert Felner” r0feln01@gwise.louisville.edu
Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2008 17:14:43 -0500
To: riccatds@aol.comTom,
Situation is getting real dicey. I could lose my house and you too as your payments will be stopping. I really need you to take care of this. Not manyana. Now. Please, for the sake of our familes and friendship.
Me

From: “Robert Felner” r0feln01@gwise.louisville.edu
Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 11:12:03 -0500
To: RICCATDS@aol.comthe 1099 I asked for showing $36,450
And I need it asap -ok? Please do not daudle on this. Then payments to you will stop in the next month or sooner. We really really need the tax thing if we are ever going to get out of this hole or get you additional payments or if I am not going to lose my house. I am already needing to relentlessly look for another job as this one I have been told is probably not long. Tom, I’ve helped you with this for five years asking very little back and the amount is HUGE….(54 x 3000) I’ve taken care of covering it MYSELF anticipating we would get the tax status and cover it in my accounts and new value we could show the university. Please do something as quick as humanly possible-I have checked with the IRS-the longest thhey have taken to respond is 7 months not 5 years.
Robert D. Felner, Ph.D.
Dean and Distinguished
University Scholar,
College of Education
and Human Development
University of Louisville
Louisville, Ky. 40292
r.felner@louisville.edu
voice: (502) 852-3235
fax: (502) 852-1464

From: riccatds@aol.com
Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 15:01:49 -0500
To: r0feln01@gwise.louisville.eduRobert:
In response to your email of 4/27, I am picking up the 1099 form that must be scannable for the IRS, and will complete the form, submit and mail to you. Also, I have met with the attorneys twice since last week about the National Center, and we will be conference calling with an IRS compliance person on Wednesday morning. I will continue to push and give them anything they request. I truly hope you have a better week. Take care.
Tom

From: “Robert Felner” r0feln01@gwise.louisville.edu
Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 09:34:11 -0500
To: RICCATDS@aol.com1099 as requested – amt 36,400. And be on look out for check for final payment for data collection on project and call as SOON as received.
Robert D. Felner, Ph.D.
Dean and Distinguished
University Scholar,
College of Education
and Human Development
University of Louisville
Louisville, Ky. 40292
r.felner@louisville.edu
voice: (502) 852-3235
fax: (502) 852-1464

From: RICCATDS@aol.com
Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 12:03:58 -0500
To: r0feln01@gwise.louisville.eduRobert,
I completed the 1099 for $36,450. Would you prefer I send the form to your home or U of L address? Also, I will send the check to you as soon as it arrives, and I have had three conversations in the last two weeks with officials from the IRS regarding 501c3 status for the National Center, and I am re-submitting some of the forms of the application.
Whatever I can do for you, please know that I will. Take care, and I hope to talk with you and see you soon.
Tom

From: “Robert Felner” r0feln01@gwise.louisville.edu
Date: Sat, 17 May 2008 18:12:12 -0500
To: RICCATDS@aol.comPlease send to
me at
P.O. Box 436 Harrods Creek KY (for a short time) 40027
Check to you soon.
Any progress?
Will talk to you next week. Right now trying hard to find a job.
Gotta get out of here.
Robert D. Felner, Ph.D.
Dean and Distinguished
University Scholar,
College of Education
and Human Development
University of Louisville
Louisville, Ky. 40292
r.felner@louisville.edu
voice: (502) 852-3235
fax: (502) 852-1464
— — RICCATDS@aol.com 5/12/2008 1:03 PM —
Robert,
I completed the 1099 for $36,450. Would you prefer I send the form to
your home or U of L address? Also, I will send the check to you as soon as it
arrives, and I have had three conversations in the last two weeks with
officials from the IRS regarding 501c3 status for the National Center, and I am
re-submitting some of the forms of the application.
Whatever I can do for you, please know that I will. Take care, and I
hope to talk with you and see you soon.
Tom

From: “Robert Felner” r0feln01@gwise.louisville.edu
Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 07:18:27 -0500
To: riccatds@aol.comHave not yet received the 1099 form. Any news on the IRS stuff. What happened on the conference call. This is URGENT.
Robert D. Felner, Ph.D.
Dean and Distinguished
University Scholar,
College of Education
and Human Development
University of Louisville
Louisville, Ky. 40292
r.felner@louisville.edu
voice: (502) 852-3235
fax: (502) 852-1464
— — riccatds@aol.com 4/28/2008 4:01 PM —
Robert:
In response to your email of 4/27, I am picking up the 1099 form that must be scannable for the IRS, and will complete the form, submit and mail to you. Also, I have met with the attorneys twice since last week about the National Center, and we will be conference calling with an IRS compliance person on Wednesday morning. I will continue to push and give them anything they request. I truly hope you have a better week. Take care.
Tom

From: “Robert Felner” r0feln01@gwise.louisville.edu
Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 07:31:12 -0500
To: RICCATDS@aol.comHave you sent this?
Robert D. Felner, Ph.D.
Dean and Distinguished
University Scholar,
College of Education
and Human Development
University of Louisville
Louisville, Ky. 40292
r.felner@louisville.edu
voice: (502) 852-3235
fax: (502) 852-1464
— — RICCATDS@aol.com 5/12/2008 1:03 PM —
Robert,
I completed the 1099 for $36,450. Would you prefer I send the form to your home or U of L address? Also, I will send the check to you as soon as it arrives, and I have had three conversations in the last two weeks with officials from the IRS regarding 501c3 status for the National Center, and I am re-submitting some of the forms of the application.
Whatever I can do for you, please know that I will. Take care, and I hope to talk with you and see you soon.
Tom







153 responses so far ↓
1 El Indio // Jul 28, 2008 at 6:36 pm
On top of everything else, he misspelled “manana.”
2 Holy Toledo Batman // Jul 28, 2008 at 6:45 pm
Jake — thank goodness to you and Adam for staying on this story; asking for documents; and reporting vigilantly on this. I agree — how can Ramsey’s defense of Felner be defended now. Either asleep at the wheel; or just incompetent.
3 Gunti // Jul 28, 2008 at 7:03 pm
Holy Mother of My Schizophrenic God.
4 UofHell Escapee // Jul 28, 2008 at 7:08 pm
Looks like little Bobby might actually enjoy some aspects of prison life.
5 wc // Jul 28, 2008 at 7:25 pm
Oh. My. God.
OMG. OMG. OMG.
I am speechless, wordless. What can be said about this?! I would not believe these emails except that I know how Felner writes. This is him. He was desperate. Scared. Terrified. Nuts. In a complete and total panic.
Who knew? He puffed his chest and bragged about getting a chancellor job. He continued to say he had the support of the provost and president throughout this period. He must be schizophrenic like his father. How can someone live the lie as he did?
And he didn’t want that job. He would have, in desperation, taken anything. It was mid-May and he was desperate to leave Louisville.
And, he had a friend. Robert Felner actually had someone who appeared to care about him. An intimate friend, too, although I would doubt sexually intimate. (What about all the women?)
This story keeps getting more and more bizarre. The saddest thing about this email exchange is proof now that this man never, ever cared about the work. It really was all talk. Call me naive, but I thought once that he did want good things for kids. It was all a fake. he just wanted houses.
I cannot believe what I just read. You psychologists out there have got to help us make sense of all this.
6 Steve // Jul 28, 2008 at 7:29 pm
Mamma Mia!
7 rivercity gal // Jul 28, 2008 at 8:23 pm
You do remember that he is a psychologist!
8 ed // Jul 28, 2008 at 8:41 pm
Bobby! Stop! You’re killin me!!!! One day I’m reading about you forging signatures, and I’m saying to myself…..that’s unbelievable, what could beat that? Then….BAM….it’s the next day and we’re reading your emails!!!!!
Hell….you can’t make this stuff up!!!!!
And by the way, Bob, they were very touching emails.
Hugs,
Ed
P.S. Your right, UofHell, seems like jail may just warm Bobby’s cockles. Maybe Bubba had better be careful.
9 Tirnstile // Jul 28, 2008 at 9:42 pm
Ed, I’m guessing that – wherever you are – the air is a little bit fresher, the water is a little bit cleaner, and the birds are chirping just a little bit louder this evening. :)
10 Tirnstile // Jul 28, 2008 at 9:43 pm
And that goes for ALL of you, I suppose.
11 Fascinated Bystander // Jul 28, 2008 at 10:40 pm
Wow! I saw this report on the news tonight and couldn’t wait to come here and read what U of L insiders thought about this development. This story is just wild, and it seems to get stranger by the day. These emails certainly suggest that Tom wasn’t quite as innocent as he portrayed himself in the CJ article; hell, he had to know all the dirty details on this scam.
How much do you wanna be that he made a sweetheart deal with the feds to testify against Felner? Lord only knows what other roaches are going to scurry out from under the next rock that is turned over in this case. Jake, you weren’t kidding when you talked about this being the tip of the iceberg, were you?
I also have to ask why in the hell didn’t Ramsey keep his fat yap shut about Felner? What was Ramsey hoping to accomplish by praising a man whose office was just raided by the feds and escorted from campus? Surely he had an inkling that this thing was a hornet’s nest for the University. Anyone with any common sense would simply state something like,”I am sorry but I can’t comment on a University matter that is currently under criminal investigation. However, I can say that we are cooperating fully with authorities.” Ramsey had absolutely nothing to gain from praising Felner–NOTHING. Indeed, he looks like a bumbling idiot who is going out of his way to flip the bird to all the unfortunate students, faculty, and staff who complained about Felner and endured the man’s tyranny. And I speak as someone who has no affiliation whatsoever with U of L; I am just someone from the community watching this train wreck unfold with disbelieving eyes. Ramsey should lose his job. Period.
I truly feel for all the people who had to deal with Felner and who now have to deal with Ramsey’s complicity and/or ineptitude. I don’t know whether to wish you good luck or to encourage you to sue the university.
12 Always Amazed // Jul 28, 2008 at 10:57 pm
You find one rat, and you know there are always hundreds more hidden in the floorboards. I wonder how crabby everyone is feeling now?
13 UofHell Escapee // Jul 29, 2008 at 12:10 am
Lil’ Bobby Nutcase had this story yesterday:
Lil’ Bobby Nutcase // Jul 27, 2008 at 5:39 pm
“And Schroeder in the article linked at the top *may* be innocent. but I really doubt it. I always thought they might have “dug” each other. Bobby pincher my a$$ twice, and I am a guy.”
14 Becareful // Jul 29, 2008 at 12:48 am
Unfortunately, there are several people in the college of education whose personal and professional lives have been devasted by Felner and his Leadership. Will the president and the provost ever look into this mess to help them? Lucky are those who managed to leave.
15 jake // Jul 29, 2008 at 1:42 am
Nope. I absolutely wasn’t kidding when I said it was just the tip of the ice berg.
Maybe now the Courier-Journal will stop beating around the bush.
And MAYBE the University of Louisville’s administration will take notice. Because I promise– this is going to get a heck of a lot juicer.
16 writerach // Jul 29, 2008 at 2:53 am
Also he spelled “dawdle” incorrectly. I just hate a major university dean who can’t spell manana and dawdle.
17 marie // Jul 29, 2008 at 3:12 am
I keep thinking about the annual report of the faculty grievance officer and how an ‘underlying
collegiality’ is presumed, and there’s no (legal)
remedy in its absence. Hopefully, we are moving closer to a time when laws will exist to protect workers from ‘unsafe’ work environments where there is literally no accountability. I didn’t suffer at the hands of Robert Felner, but all the signs were clearly present that my work situation was unnecessarily
wreaking havoc with my health. I say unnecessarily because the work was good and I knew that my tormenters cared less about the work than I did. The fact that anything can be made up, and it will stand, legally, and years of your work history disappears (along with your self-esteem) is outrageous. When the investigations begin, you will want to include the
LIBRARIES.
18 ed // Jul 29, 2008 at 5:27 am
Tirnstile,
Yeah…it’s a good moment for all of us. After reading those emails, I’m beginning to think there may not even be a trial. They’ll probably offer to knock a few years off in exchange for not having to go through that expense. But who knows. Too bad….I was thinking of coming for it.
Am I the only one…or did anyone else get creeped out by those emails? They sort of moved this whole thing into the surreal or bizarre category. Think about it…..A psycho and his lover set out to systematically fleece universities and the federal government of God knows how much money. In his wake he leaves such terror that those around him believe he is something that has escaped from the gates of hell….while his superiors regard him like the second coming???? And through it all he carries on this dual life of woman after woman after woman…..and a man??
Is this for real??? I’m on sensory overload!!! And Jake says it’s going to get even juicier? What’s next??? Did Felner dress as a woman, then hire and date himself??? And…if seems like some kind of porn could make an entrance at any moment. I’m still wondering what “illegal merchandise” he purchased with this money. Since they mentioned it a few weeks ago, nothing more has been said. Is that your next bomb, Jake?
I think I’m going to need a seatbelt on my computer chair.
19 Shrinker // Jul 29, 2008 at 8:22 am
Look carefully at the reference to Felner BEING TOLD that his job wouldn’t last at UofL. Since he’s the Dean, the only people who could have given him that heads-up are the Provost (Willihnganz) or the Pres. The Provost (the direct supervisor of the dean) is strangely silent in this entire debacle, but ONE of the two of them knew someting about Felner and had told him to leave ASAP. Shovel the dirt onto someone else’s yard.
20 Shrinker // Jul 29, 2008 at 9:26 am
Since you asked for psychological analysis: true narcissists (what we are dealing with in Felner’s case, at least for one diagnosis on Axis II of the DSM, which are the personality disorders) may be quite happy with partners of “any” sex; real gratification comes from the reinforcing of the persona, not the relationship or mechanics.
And, while we’re on the subject of lies and misrepresentations, somebody should look into his CV and see if his degrees and previous employment are correct as presented. He didn’t start lying here at UofL
Ramsey, you took a mediocre school (CEHD) and allowed Felner to abuse it to what end? Now it’s reputation is really cooked, USNWR ratings notwithstanding (ratings that have nothing whatever to do with what it’s like to study or worth there.) Calling their cries for help “crap”? (And what university pres should talk that way in public anyhow?) That most of the grievances were anonymous should have been a warning sign to you! These people were terrified of reprisal, but you were blinded by your belief that they were academic weaklings and so assumed Felner was kickin’ ass as hired hit man.
Northup, what did you get out of this deal? And we see that you, too, are an excellent judge of character, no surprise there.
Shirley, where are you in all this? Why don’t you exercise oversight over ALL THE DEANS (Felner being one of several), as your office demands? You reputation is for being passive and conflict-avoidant…with this for a result.
UofL has a history of being taken in by apparent Wunderkinds from the outside whose cockiness is perceived as talent. Someone needs the ability to exercise a little clinical judgment, someone who can see a narcissist/psychopath when they meet him/her.
We need new leadership, if for no other reason than because the public will never be willing to vote financial support to leadership that has let this happen on their watch. Somebody knew what was up and chose to try–what else is new–to cover it up and shovel it away. More heads need to roll over this.
21 ed // Jul 29, 2008 at 9:36 am
Since the moment I saw Ramsey’s interview, I’ve been totally convinced heads will roll. Namely, his. I’m sure what’s happening here is simply that the Board of Trustees (and whoever else would be making these decisions) are waiting for the outcome of the investigation. Once that plays out, and Felner is dealt with, Ramsey will be gone like a popped soap bubble. Probably others, as well.
Honestly, how could they NOT be???? Based on what I’ve been reading here from people who work there, anything short of that would certainly result in some mass rebellion on campus. Those in charge must know that, and it’s the last thing they’ll want or need if they have ANY hopes of recovering from this mess.
22 Give us a break... // Jul 29, 2008 at 10:02 am
I don’t want to divert the conversation from rolling heads because that’s a great topic – both those above who allowed all this and those below who followed blindly (many of whom turned their backs on their colleagues of many years for whatever gain they got out of being Felner’s handmaiden)…BUT
Why did he write these notes on his UofL email account? Did he want to be caught? Is he such a megalomaniac that he thought nothing could touch him? Decompensation? Panic? Poor little worm.
23 UofL Faculty // Jul 29, 2008 at 10:13 am
I am beginning to see that there is no other option in saving the reputation of the university. Willihnganz and Ramsey must go. Perhaps then, this university stain can begin to fade.
University Senate: What say you about this?
24 Shrinker // Jul 29, 2008 at 10:17 am
Regarding the US New and WR rankings: this is the evidence that Ramsey used to claim that Felner had done a great job. If you look at what is included in those rankings, you will see that a large amount of grant money obtained by even a single person can have a major impact on changing position on the list. The former dimension of grant money to tenured faculty ratio (a much better indicator of overall department quality) was DROPPED just before the new rankings were calculated. The single big grant that Felner obtained via Anne Northup–the one at issue–alone could have accounted for the ranking improvement…a grant for research that never existed. Sadly, there is no dimension in these rankings that would reflect the current state of the CEHD, but look for the next round to show a huge decrement (below where it started pre-Felner) as the reputation accorded it by other education deans across the country plummets.
Maybe UofL should consider dissolving the current CEHD and then immediately reconstituting it under a new name, with new leadership, hiring back only those who share a different and new vision (and who are not suffering from major personality disorders).
The CEHD as constituted now is cooked, nationally. In real estate, it’s LOCATION; in higher education, it’s REPUTATION. CEHD will not be getting any national grants, quality faculty or graduate students (except from local sources who can’t go elsewhere) for quite a while following this debacle.
The only hope current faculty have for funding their research would be to dissociate themselves administratively from CEHD, somehow. For years after this, anyone with CEHD on their CV will be looked at askance and asked to explain. Very sad…and all because UofL admin refused to admit they had a very serious problem, blinded as they were by the reflected gleam of filthy lucre.
25 ed // Jul 29, 2008 at 10:18 am
I had some of the same thoughts while I was reading them. Doesn’t he know that everything can easily be retrieved….and nothing is ever deleted from a hard drive???
I guess he just never felt it would come to this. As I’ve said, he is so arrogant he feels he can do whatever he wants without consequence.
Maybe…..just maybe…..he’s beginning to realize that that might not be true. But who knows with him. It may take the slamming of a cell door to drive that point home.
26 not UofL connected // Jul 29, 2008 at 10:19 am
Random thoughts:
It would seem that Felner had a network of “people” (some getting paid or not–this reference in the emails). He’s probably been working this for years (once people have been bought they’re complicit and at the mercy of the buyer to do his bidding).
The references to the “weather” and other terms are probably some kind of code.
He must have been under the gun from the IRS for years; Schroder must have been able to forge and obtain forged documentation. The IRS may have triggered the investigation.
Who gave WHAS 11 the emails?
The ex-wife no doubt knows where the bodies are buried.
Someone should check into properties he sold here and other places, as well as the ones he presently owns, to make sure all was Kosher in those dealings.
Does he even hold the degrees he claims?
There’s a lesson for all Universities and corporations here: do not kick a monster “upstairs” because the monster will keep consuming all in his path. This should be a crime. Thanks to the University of Rhode Island we got Felner in the first place. They KNEW. There should be a law specifically designed to prohibit this practice. It happens quietly over and over now.
All of UofL does NOT need to be tarred and feathered because of the gullibility, passivity and lack of professionalism of the Provost and President.
27 Give us a break... // Jul 29, 2008 at 11:03 am
When did these emails surface?
How long did the president and provost know? Did they wait until Felner got another job and was on his way out before notifying the police so they didn’t have to deal with him as a UofL employee?
Did they think is was all going to go away? Ramsay was obviously unprepared to deal with questions from the press – shrugging and blaming everyone except those who should be.
28 Steve // Jul 29, 2008 at 12:25 pm
To say the least, this is not U of L’s finest hour — nor President Jim Ramsey’s. The most fascinating aspect of this story to me remains how a dean was able to run roughshod over his faculty — and run amok with apparently misappropriated grant monies — for so long.
U of L owes the university community and the public a comprehensive investigation of how this happened and who’s responsible. Without it, accountability is mere lip service.
Ramsey owes the public — and especially the faculty — an apology.
To call, as he did, numerous personnel complaints including sexual harassment “anonymous crap” is an insult to the collective intelligence. As Felner descends into deeper disrepute, that remark will become increasingly regrettable.
Shirley W., I love ya’ to pieces, but you, too, have a lot of ‘splainin’ to do. If that entails detailing any pressure whatsoever to protect Felner, then so be it.
Hugs,
Me
29 as tall as felner // Jul 29, 2008 at 12:47 pm
i wonder what sam stringfield has to say now….
was he ever called “honey” by the dean? i wish he would come and tell us about it….
30 Give us a break... // Jul 29, 2008 at 1:19 pm
My guess is he was told by higher-ups to shut up. He wouldn’t do it on his own. He always has just one more self-righteous comment to add.
ed, maybe you could get Sam to give us his take on these emails.
31 ed // Jul 29, 2008 at 1:50 pm
I think if Sam is reading this blog, he would speak up if he wanted to. Thanks for the vote of confidence, but I don’t think I could get him here if he’s not inclined to be. Especially if someone from above told him to stop.
Sam was a guy who just didn’t get it. I told him a few times (before I knew who he was) that he was very obviously not a victim of Felner. And people who aren’t…just can’t get it. It was clear to me in all the “healing” talk, that he saw no place for the anger. A sure sign to me that Bobby never pulled his act on Sam. To him, we were….are….probably just a bunch of whining discontents.
I think…and I told him this….that when this is over, he will pay a price for what he posted. Your reactions to his words, once he “came out” convinces me even more of that. When people hurt, you can’t tell them not to. And, in my opinion, that’s what his posts amounted to…and worse. Folks aren’t about to forget that when all this dust eventually settles. There will be no respect for Sam.
But, Sam, if you’re there and would like to weigh in on Felner’s emails….that were equal part machinations and skin crawl…..seems many folks would like to hear what you have to say.
32 Tired of it // Jul 29, 2008 at 1:59 pm
Sam is a good guy.
33 ed // Jul 29, 2008 at 2:00 pm
Hey, Sam, you ARE still reading!!!
34 UofHell Escapee // Jul 29, 2008 at 2:04 pm
As much as I’d like to see it, I doubt that heads will roll over the Felner Affair. El Indio and others here have already pointed out the interconnections amongst the players from Patton to Loving to Ramsey to Shirley to Felner to Blake.
The family tree of the UofHell is like a stump.
So, I would not recommend betting any of your houses on Ramsey being brought down, especially now that Patton’s on the CPE board. He’ll be sure to protect his old budget director.
As for Shirley, don’t expect her to be explaining anything, as she is primarily responsible for bringing Felner to the UofHell and providing the cover for him to do his dirty work.
Shirley knew that Felner was a problem before he even arrived. I know because I, for one, told her. Felner’s droppings left a trail from Illinois to Rhode Island. A trail of lawsuits, false claims and abusive relationships that folks knew of before the “appointed without a search braintrust” at UofHell decided Felner was their man.
The spring that Felner interviewed at UofHell he was also a finalist for dean at SUNY Albany. He didn’t get the job at Albany, in part, because folks on the search committee there sniffed out problems with Felner’s CV…grants he claimed to have received, which could not be confirmed.
It only took a few months before some of Louisville’s highest-powered labor lawyers were beating down Shirley’s door on behalf of faculty clients challenging Felner’s administrative abuse. So Shirley is not passive bystander in all of this.
Indeed, it is the cultural corruption of the UofHell, which allowed the Felner Affair to happen. It’s not just little Bobby’s fault! Many of the CEHD faculty who are whining now about how bad they were treated by Little Bobby Felner were the ones who ignored the facts, ignored the warnings they were given before he was hired; many were also willing to look the other way when the Felner’s abuse was directed at others, but they thought they were immune (you know who you are…Tom, Bryant, Ann, et al.)
So you CEHD faculty stop trying to blame this train wreck on Little Bobby or on Ramsey or Shirley alone. You all have to take responsibility for the systemic sickness that is CEHD. You had your chance before Felner arrived to treat the cancer that plagues the place, but were too weak to step up to the plate.
35 Tirnstile // Jul 29, 2008 at 2:19 pm
Here’s chapter 8 of the Bobby Felner story:
Bi-curious Bobby and Bi-polar Bubba: Bunk Buddies in Bliss
36 Ed Springston // Jul 29, 2008 at 2:21 pm
Fascinating story from the beginning and no real surprise. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.
This is just the tip of the iceberg.
Systemic failure from the top down or is it?
From the encyclopedia:
“A failure can also be a process failure whereby although the activity is completed successfully, a person may still feel dissatisfied if the underlying process is perceived to be below expected standard or benchmark.”
My expected standard would be one of ethics which they have blatantly fell to the wayside in this situation.
Failure to anticipate
Failure to perceive
To anticipate this would have been easy by paying attention to the trail left by Felner at other venues.
Perception is reality to those affected by it.
My perception of reality is a simple one.
Time for Ramsey and a few others to go.
Perhaps since Anne Northup was involved in getting the grant that started this there could be an investigation into her activities as well such as campaign donation connections.
Keep up the good work Jake.
37 Cannothelpnotlaughing // Jul 29, 2008 at 2:24 pm
As tall as felner , that is amusing and funny. How knows what went on at the social parties in 700,000 worth house? It might be more than honey around Loverboy, Bobby.
38 sickofit // Jul 29, 2008 at 2:55 pm
Tiredofit (#32). Sam could be a nice guy with some. However, he is totally untrustworthy. To support Felner, he did many ugly things to some people. He is not a saint. Actually, he is known as a big snake who can bite you and laugh aloud, a man without any conscience. How about his own grants? Where is his money? Could he be playing another Tom Schroeder locally for Felner. Patterns are the same. He was recruited by Felner with huge salary of more than 177,000. He owes a lot to Bobby. He might have served as a middle man to help bubba.
He also pays his friend, another instructor Kirsten Sundell, $ 85824 much more than many full professors are paid with more than twenty years experience. She is not teaching anything, advises none, and no research.
39 Abystander // Jul 29, 2008 at 2:58 pm
It seems to me that school of education is in a big mess. God bless Bobby, and God bless UofL.
40 Tirnstile // Jul 29, 2008 at 3:44 pm
Sundell also has the $42 million grant referenced on her faculty profile page. That’s a popular number around the CEHD….still.
41 Shrinker // Jul 29, 2008 at 5:34 pm
Let’s also get Shirley and Jim to ‘fess up about the whole UofL faculty shilling on TV for McConnell issue. After slapping the hands of UofL personnel who dared to send emails from their UofL accounts to Frankfort legislators on issues pertaining to their disciplinary experitse, S and J allowed medical school faculty to appear on a McConnell TV ad supporting his campaign. When confronted with this hypocrisy, the answer was 1) oops and 2) well this person and Jim and old buds. Sorry, this is not professional, not ethical and not fair. It makes UofL look very, very bad, guys.
Makes you wonder what other Republican connections there might be (Anne? are you listening?) and how deep the vein of less-than-full integrity runs in the UofL administration.
When can we ever have a president who is actually a SCHOLAR and not just a fund-raiser? Who has a vision other than: the more money the better? Or is that all our community deserves?
Shirley knows better than this; she’s one of the good guys but she needs to grow a pair if she’s gonna play in the big leagues.
42 Blowin' in the Wind // Jul 29, 2008 at 6:01 pm
A Canadian blog out of UBC, weblogs.elearning.ubc.ca/workplace is following this story in detail–all the WHAS from yesterday is there and they have been doing this since the start. They cover international issues, so by the time this is over U of L’s reputation will be shattered completely–and not just CEHD.
43 A Disgusted Alum // Jul 29, 2008 at 6:53 pm
I have been following this story and get more and more disgusted! I was there during the Felner reign of terror. I think it was worse than anyone can imagine. I saw his sexual harrasment first hand, I saw how he treated faculty, I witnessed his absolute power and what that did to many people. It was scary, sad and very true. I too went to many people in power to let them know what was happening– to no avail. Felner also had a group of faculty and graduate students who just worshipped the ground he walked on. It was sad and pathetic. I hope they enjoyed their few years in the “sun” because now THEY are coming down too. I guess our parents were right– if you wait long enough EVERYONE will get what is coming to them. What I would like to see is a general apology from the president, board, etc. to all of us that had to live through this. I got out a few years ago– thank goodness, but the memories are still there. There are MANY silent victims of the Felner mess and we are the ones that will never have the same faith in UL again.
I can only pray that he is understanding the damage he did to many people. I hope that for one second he is truly SORRY.
44 SC // Jul 29, 2008 at 7:28 pm
I can see through this latest stream of comments, that many new voices are being heard here. I do hope everyone who endured or experienced Felner and his enablers reign of reprisals and abuse will sound off — current and former students; current and former facutly; current and former staff; and alums — it is seemingly more and more clear that we need a collective voice to force the administration to acknowledge their errors and misjudgements. Perhaps voicing yourselves here and now will be a first step to being able to organize all our voices for change. I know there are many, many more of your out there — start here, start now — demanding change and accountability.
45 ed // Jul 29, 2008 at 7:32 pm
I’ve known him for years. Too many. Being sorry is not something he is even capable of, and wouldn’t be even if he were. He’s just not wired like normal people and actually enjoys the bullying.
What amazes me more than anything, is the number of people he was able to do it to, and get away with it. And those are just the ones we’ve become aware of….imagine how many we’ll never know about.
It’ll be over now. He won’t be able to do it to anyone again. We have that to be thankful for.
46 rivercity gal // Jul 29, 2008 at 7:38 pm
All his enablers are not at U of L. A discreet look at Newburg Road and Bishops Lane is still in order.
47 jake // Jul 29, 2008 at 8:13 pm
(The emails were obtained via open records requests – more to come)
48 anonymous statement // Jul 29, 2008 at 8:48 pm
As one who has witnessed the workings of CEHD during Felner’s tenure, I’ve been following these conversations for awhile now and have reached a point where I feel I have to say something about what I feel is becoming an unprofessional sort of witch hunt. For starters, the fact that Felner had affectionately worded language with another man does not prove that there was anything sexual going on and to suggest such is undignified for any of us – and certainly irresponsible journalism to insinuate such in a headline. I very much appreciate the outlet that this and other blogs allow – people able to speak their mind in an anonymous fashion without fear of reprisal. However, I think it important to remember that this is essentially a gossip column wherein people are able to present conjecture and accusations as fact – without having to back it up or submit their story to any scrutiny of fact finding.
I think there is ample evidence to suggest that Felner was and is a petty, vindictive bully, womanizing sociopath – and very likely a criminal . . . although this last charge is only an allegation at this point – and the presumption of innocence is too dear to ignore. I don’t like him, have no sympathy for him and doubt if anyone else does. However, to trash talk several others in the college who worked for him, for whom the evidence of wrongdoing is available only by anonymous personal testimonials is horribly unfair. I think anyone in the college over the past several years who is honest would admit that there have been people that did not do their jobs well, despite warnings, and deserved negative attention from above. Clearly, there never was and never is a justification for bullying, harassment, or intimidation. But the fact that Felner did his job poorly and/or maliciously is not necessarily a vindication of those who bore the brunt of his bullying, it is simply a strong indictment of a bully.
To those who wish to name call and smear the names of others in the college, I submit that you are doing the college no favors. We all should look in the mirror and ask ourselves whether we can honesty say that we are working up to our highest ability everyday, following all of our professional responsibilities, and unselfishly contributing to the common good of the college and thereby the kids we all presume to serve. We should ask whether we earn our money by doing our best. Only those who can answer these in the affirmative would have any right to disrespect others. Then just because one has the right to be disrespectful does not mean that it should be exercised.
Personally, I can’t answer these questions in the affirmative for myself so I’ve nothing to say about anyone in particular – but I think if we all focused on cleaning our own houses we would truly be doing what is necessary to turn things around. I choose to be anonymous because quite honestly I don’t have the stomach to be put under the microscope or to be called self-righteous. I admit that I have my own shortcomings and that is where my focus is best directed. And so are all obviously free to make your own choices about what you say and about whom you say it. I just hope that such comments are made with the honest thought of righting the ship – and not for selfish, vindictive, or opportunistic motives.
We’ve been victimized – don’t allow that to victimization to perpetuate victimization – we’re better than that.
49 Dupedagain // Jul 29, 2008 at 9:14 pm
anonymous statement,
Are you Sam Stringfield again? If so, please leave us alone. Don’t be CEHD savior. You are one of the worst ones. Would you ever shutup!
50 as tall as felner // Jul 29, 2008 at 9:48 pm
anonymous statement… hmmm
i gotta say, i am a former student.
the people who are upset and posting on this blog are NOT the ones who are “smearing the college”. felner and all the turds whose names you think we shouldnt say are the ones who smeared the college.
everyone gets to make their choices, those who decided to turn against other faculty, watched students get harrassed, watched staff treated like dirt…all while they made insane amounts of money just have to deal with all this free speech.
the college is a dump. its not a secret. its not made worse by this blog. get over yourself. everyone deserves to know its a dump and why. everyone deserves to know who the turds in the dump are. because the people who suffered suffered long and silently. its their turn now!
i say roll it all out. the truth and all of it. time to end this ridiculous crap so i dont have to mumble when i say where i graduated from.
51 Righting the Ship // Jul 29, 2008 at 10:27 pm
Anonymous Statement
Felner is a pathological bully; but he did not act alone. Others quickly embraced the “freedom” he gave them to bully and disrespect; others who could have challenged him without fear of reprisal chose to sit silent; and yet others tried and failed to prevent his abuse (most if not all of the latter are no longer with U of L).
If this blog, even when over the top or based on accusations or personal anger, helps to expose a serious lack of leadership in the CEHD and at U of L than it is worth it.
I continue to be amazed that anyone would think simply because Felner is gone; that we can all just go back to work, do our best work, and life will be good. Sort of like asking a rape victim to just put it out of her mind and get back to work. For goodness sake — most of the faculty have been going to work; doing their best work; all the while they were enduring a horrific work environment.
Unless someone wakes up and realizes the depth of the pain and discontent — we will not get past it. I wish it were as simple as you suggest – but again — I seriously doubt you were victimized by Felner — probably observed his bad behavior – but never targeted personally or professionally.
52 rivercity gal // Jul 29, 2008 at 10:43 pm
Check the C-J–tonight they are parading as news what everybody has known since yesterday through WHAS and this blog. Do they have any concept of what news or investigative reporting is???
53 jake // Jul 29, 2008 at 10:52 pm
Not only does the C-J NOT get it, but the writer put on the job to replace Nancy Rodriguez (she went on “vacation” for two weeks right after we criticized her, totally coincidentally, I’m sure) was supposed to sit down with us so we could bring him up to speed and share with him the hundreds of documents we haven’t yet been able to examine. That never came to fruition and now Andy Wolfson is on the job.
Basically, it’s time to just forget about the C-J digging anything of substance up. The once great paper of record is only focused on the bottom line. Forget journalism.
You know there’s a problem when I’m offering to GIVE all of my research to the C-J and the paper totaly blows me off only to regurgitate what other outlets report. I did all the work for them and they still didn’t take it. You’ve all seen the materials I’ve published. You know it’s juicy. And you know the C-J could have done an amazing job.
Oh well.
54 marie // Jul 29, 2008 at 10:57 pm
Dear Anonymous Statement,
Point taken (very much to heart).
But imagine doing all that you described: working to the best of your ability, bringing enthusiasm and energy to your job, loving the university setting and the constant opportunity for growth and learning, enjoying good interactions and collaborations with coworkers and clients, but your departmental managers see nothing of this.
Statistics don’t faze them. The burden of proof is entirely on you so you document virtually every move you make and maintain an above average work record. But you are on thin ice and all your hard work is taken for granted. You are not permitted any input regarding any aspect of or the carrying out of your own job. You excelled in your field before you came to UofL; at first you feel that once your boss becomes familiar with the quality of your work, she will have faith in you. Years later as you are ready to leave, shattered by a false evaluation that you have documentation to refute; urged to respond and promised serious consideration, your response is ignored and you are told by a “conflict-avoidant” director that your supervisor “never trusted the work” and that he “wants her to be happy.” Presenting “conjecture” without having to back it up or submit it to any scrutiny of fact finding is what passes for “supervision” at the University of Louisville!
55 Steve // Jul 29, 2008 at 11:42 pm
You go, gal. One of the reasons the evolution of this story is so compelling is that it demonstrates why newspapers are declining and credible blogs are on the rise.
The definitive eulogy for the newspaper industry wil lament the complacency of reporters and editors fueled by a historic lack of competition and a systematic corporate unwillingness to read the writing on the wall — specifically, the titanic effect of the Internet in the new information age.
This was as predictable as the decline of gas-guzzling trucks. But Gannett, Knight-Ridder, etc. just kept blithely ambling toward Armageddon.
The truth might have set them free, so it’s rather ironic that an industry in the business of truth-seeking and truth-telling would be so deeply delusional.
It’s a hyper-competitive, new Darwinian day in journalism, thank goodness.
Ony the strongest will survive. And the distinctions will become increasingly obvious among reporters who seek to get in and out of stories without kicking ass & taking names — and bloggers who have some fire in their bellies and seek to make a difference.
56 Flag // Jul 30, 2008 at 12:02 am
re: Righting the Ship’s comments – If one takes a look at the ongoing behaviors and bullying actions of some other Deans at UofHell, there will be obvious parallels to what CEHD has had. That leads me back to the top – Provost and President. Fix it at that level or we all can just expect more of the same old same old.
57 Righting the Ship // Jul 30, 2008 at 12:52 am
I agree with you Flag. Organizational Culture begins at the top — it is particularly ironic that Dr. Ramsey has criticized the General Assembly frequently for their lack of leadership and interest in good policy — but clearly, he can not see that his leadership exhibits the same lack of sustainable policy justification he laments when it adversely affects him.
I am constantly amazed at the lack of self-reflection of so many in leadership and influential positions. Somewhere we have gone terribly wrong in higher education, business, government.
58 Ed Springston // Jul 30, 2008 at 2:45 am
From righting the ship:
“I am constantly amazed at the lack of self-reflection of so many in leadership and influential positions. Somewhere we have gone terribly wrong in higher education, business, government.”
Well said.
I wish anonymous posters would start this same type conversation about the local government administration and our “Mayor for life.”
There are as many scandals and abuse of power as anything involve din this Felner and U of L situation.
Problem is no one has the guts to stand up and help right that ship either.
59 wc // Jul 30, 2008 at 6:45 am
Anonymous Statement may be right in her sentiments. Still, if those on the Leadership Team had not been mean, vindictive, and unprofessional towards those on Felner’s enemies list, then their names would not come up. (Some names on the LT have NOT come up!) To be honest, there are many more names of people in the college who stood by and watched people get hurt and did nothing. Many ducked their heads inside their office doors when one of RF’s enemies walked down the hallway. Many more people were afraid to speak up and do what is right, and those people are not being named. Just the cruel folks who laughed and partied when they had the power to hurt others. So, the message of this new era is that if you do not want your name smeared on a blog do not hurt others. Blogging can serve an incredible long-term purpose of keeping people from attacking others.
Also Anonymous: I suspect that no one on this blog cares whether or not RF was gay. The jokes that he might now enjoy prison are just jokes in the Stephen Colbert sense. As I read the remarks, no one is anti-gay here–as much has been made of his wives and girlfriends. Most of us also do not even care that he stole money. What we care about is that he damaged lives, careers, and spritits of many people who used to love their work.
60 wc // Jul 30, 2008 at 6:51 am
One more thing. I think it is fascinating–this re-writing of history. Now everyone “didn’t like the guy.” I keep hearing more and more people say this.
Well, I for one am proud now to be on Felner’s Enemies List.
61 Rose // Jul 30, 2008 at 7:28 am
To anonymous statement:
It is absolutley appropriate to question Felner’s relationship with Schroeder…and it has nothing to do with whether the relationship was a gay/straight one. Their romantic relationship may have inhibited one of these individuals (and perhaps some other males/females) from coming forward with information about this criminal behavior…or worse, forced the complicity of individuals. Look at the language in the emails…”For the sake of our families and our friendship.” The fear of being outed is scary, I’m certain…and Felner seems just the type to exploit that fear.
The relationship also renders is highly likely Schroeder knew everything Felner was up to. They are clearly confidantes…and more.
If this had been a male/female relationship, the CJ would have been all over it. This relationship is absolutely relevant…and bravo to WHAS and Jake for running with it.
Again…it is not about gay or straight…it is about Felner having power over this person and how he was able to exercise it.
62 ed // Jul 30, 2008 at 8:24 am
As I’ve said before, but should repeat for new posters, I’m a bazillion miles away from U of L. My history with little Hitler was years ago and very personal. I came here simply, and solely, for the thrill and satisfaction of watching him go down in flames. And I am totally enjoying that.
Over the weeks, however, it would have been imposible for me, and insensive of me, not to be drawn in to the what went on at U of L during his reign of terror. His ability to hurt….on multiple levels….is just so sad.
For whatever reason, people in leadership positions there climbed into bed with Bob (sorry for the mental image, folks). Perhaps it was about money….or power…or even that it was safer and easier to be with him, rather than against him. Some level of self preservation.
But, for whatever reason, they did do it. And, from reading your posts, some took to it quite well…even growing to enjoy it.
For posters now to chide others for bashing and trashing the others on his team, even though it may be well intentioned….is really quite short sighted. In the real world, the law would never ignore anyone who aided and abetted a criminal, so why would you suggest it happen here? Those “others” may not have actually stolen money (but who knows?). They did, however, join in the extreme abuse and torment of innocent people, even if they did it by turning their heads…..if I’m reading these posts correctly. How could any clear thinking individual suggest that those folks be left alone? Do you think that any future rebuilding of the university could even begin with such rot still in the foundation? Not a chance.
Bobby was certainly the tumor, and he will soon be removed. But, there are apparently a number of infected nodes. Are you suggesting those be ignored and left in?
63 Love the 'Ville, Not UofL // Jul 30, 2008 at 8:27 am
“Death on Cardinal and Brook”
Hollow creatures,
Like vultures on road kill.
They party
While CEHD burns.
Money moves them,
Grants their cover and scam.
They laugh,
Fear is their shield.
Cowardly animals,
They kill the spirit.
In the name of tinsel glory,
They hide their deeds of death.
64 Tirnstile // Jul 30, 2008 at 9:43 am
snap snap snap snap
tambourine tambourine
snap snap
65 ed // Jul 30, 2008 at 9:47 am
P.S.
The use of the term “witch hunt” earlier is, in my opinion, a grossly inaccurate characterization of what is happening here. History has shown those hunts to be the result of nothing more than unfounded hysteria, fear and ignorance. Little more than an extension of mob mentality.
Innocent people suffered and were killed there in, what today would likely be classified as mass murder.
To suggest that is what’s happening here is (again, in my opinion) and attempt, in one sweeping motion, to totally discount the reality of what actually took place there. Bobby’s clan is not a bunch of innocent victims being pursued by an unruly and unthinking mob, controlled by blind ignorance.
In fact, these are people whose lives were directly hurt, ruined and, likely, destroyed by those who supported and followed a monster.
In my mind, this MUCH more closely resembles bringing the Manson family to justice, than it does some misguided and baseless witch hunt.
66 Give us a break... // Jul 30, 2008 at 10:45 am
As usual, ed, you are correct.
Felner was remarkable in his ability to recruit followers who would give up standards of decency and principles of democracy to follow him. They became his puppets who would follow his orders regardless of how cruel or unfair. Some claimed that they were a shield between Felner and “the common people” but that was an excuse for being able to share the spoils with the little king. For this reason, they should not continue in power.
But there is another reason. Those who “lead” on the “leadership” team by following showed, in fact, that they had no ability to lead. They showed their ability to follow and to support a cruel, ruthless leader to the detriment of those they were supposed to be leading. They demonstrated a lack of moral character and lack of regard for those “below” them. This included not only faculty, but support staff as well. (That’s a group that has some stories to tell about the Felner reign!)
Why should these pathetic people continue to serve in leadership positions in the college? CEHD needs a good cleaning – a stiff sweeping out.
Giving faculty a say in selecting new leadership would be a good start in restoring democratic process.
67 ed // Jul 30, 2008 at 11:23 am
I’m not psychologist, but what’s shaping up here is…I would think….turning into a fascinating (and possibly important) “case study” for one.
The abyss that exists between the victims of Felner (and his clan) and the non victims, is so huge…SO huge…that I believe it is unbridgeable (if that’s even a word). It is seemingly just….not…possible for the non’s to grasp what it was…and is….like to have been subjected to that.
I could beat that horse silly, but I think the postings speak clearly to that, and it’s probably something all the victims have known anyway.
68 tbrauch // Jul 30, 2008 at 11:40 am
I’m beginning to doubt that Felner is completely innocent in this whole situation.
Damn, I guess that means if this goes to jury trial I won’t get to serve.
69 ed // Jul 30, 2008 at 12:15 pm
They may have to move the trial to China to find 12 impartial jurors.
70 midfielder // Jul 30, 2008 at 2:00 pm
Can anyone shed light on the references to the libraries and the Newburg Rd? Are these red herrings or can someone say how they are related to Felner?
The CEHD is–get this–up for reaccreditation in October. Oh my.
Someone should contact members of the faculty grievance committe(s) that investigated the grievances to see what was actually submitted to Shirley re their findings, by the way. The public report about these grievances presented by Ramsey (that they were without foundation)may not be entirely accurate.
Jake, more open records requests? Long live the blog; no wonder newspapers are moribund. I nominate Jake for Pres of UofL.
Are the trustees reading these blogs? Tell everyone you know about them.
71 jake // Jul 30, 2008 at 2:03 pm
They appear to be referring to Felner’s relationship with JCPS and the former superintendent. It should be noted that we have been unable to uncover anything remotely suspicious as of today. (But we’ll keep digging)
72 Blowin' in the Wind // Jul 30, 2008 at 2:50 pm
When there was pressure to remove Felner a few years ago, the former superintendent and two of his staff went over the provost to the president to support him. This has to be a major source of the president’s praising Felner for better relations with JCPS.
73 UofL Faculty // Jul 30, 2008 at 3:43 pm
And that would be Daeshner, the superintentent asked to leave by the JCPS board, correct?
So, why would Ramsey continue to support Felner, even though Felner’s JCPS supporter is gone?
Hmmm. I vote Ramsey as Olbermann’s “Worst Person in the Wooooooorrrrrrlllld!”
74 Blowin' in the Wind // Jul 30, 2008 at 4:17 pm
Not all of Felner’s supporters and sometime act-alikes are gone, only the superintendent.
75 rivercity gal // Jul 30, 2008 at 7:07 pm
Has anyone contacted former superintendent Steve Daeschner to ask him what great contributions Dr. Felner made to JCPS?
76 beyung // Jul 30, 2008 at 7:27 pm
“Not UofL connected” – you are so right about this:
“Thanks to the University of Rhode Island we got Felner in the first place. They KNEW. ”
I’m just waiting for Jake to unearth the bodies he left behind there.
77 rivercity gal // Jul 30, 2008 at 7:42 pm
From reading these blogs regularly, it appears that Felner left damaged lives and who knows what else at every institution, from Yale to Auburn to Illinois to Rhode Island to Louisville. Each one passed him on. What does this say about higher education in this country? Come the revolution…
78 beyung // Jul 30, 2008 at 7:56 pm
Rivercity gal -
It speaks volumes about higher education – the relentless pursuit of tenure and higher position at any cost. You know why each University passed him on – LAWSUITS! They couldn’t say anything bad about him – they just wanted to be rid of him. Now – I’m afraid that every place this man has worked will feel the repercussions of their non-actions.
79 marie // Jul 30, 2008 at 9:32 pm
To midfielder:
Re: references to the libraries. As detailed in a few other postings, mine is a separate issue from Felner’s but occurred at Uof L under the helm of Ramsay and Willihnganz. There are many similarities between what I experienced and the bullying endured by Felner’s staff.
80 anotheralum // Jul 30, 2008 at 10:23 pm
OK, now I understand. For the HE ELFH faculty who were/are putting up with this stuff….I just want you to know that here’s one student who knew something must have been miserable but never heard any of you speak ill of anyone! I appreciate you even more. Thanks. For whatever that’s worth!
81 SC // Jul 31, 2008 at 9:50 am
Hey Jake.
What would it take to force the President and Provost to do a live interview on this topic and subject themselves to detailed questions about Felner’s performance criteria; and the administration’s response to the Faculty Grievance Officer’s repeated requests for assistance in the CEHD?
Does anyone know if Felner had a “workplan” that identified his performance criteria. Dr. Ramsey has a detailed workplan that the Board uses to evaluate his performance; wouldn’t you think the Dean’s have similar workplans?
82 Not UofL connected // Jul 31, 2008 at 10:13 am
No doubt everybody at UofL has been told to talk to NO ONE until after the investigation is over (and their own legal counsel will tell them not to talk ever–there may be no way to put lipstick on this pig)
It’ll be the standard defense: deny, deny, deny workplan or not.
83 Mike Jones // Jul 31, 2008 at 10:23 am
Bobby Felon was very fond of “Business Plans” and how much revenue would be generated by each center. Wonder what his “Business Plan” was for his real estate Center??
84 jake // Jul 31, 2008 at 10:35 am
They’re basically never gonna go before the press.
But leadership can’t hide from Open Records Requests…
85 Tirnstile // Jul 31, 2008 at 11:03 am
Jake, is there gonna be a prize for the 1,000,000th poster in the Bobby blogs??
86 Love the 'Ville, Not UofL // Jul 31, 2008 at 1:24 pm
“Belknap Survivor Manual”
GED on the wall
now topsy-turvy,
like Humpty Dumpty.
Yells on the corridors
now growing softer,
like worms.
Grants applications
now running on empty,
like SUVs.
Leadership team members
now hiding under desks,
like Diefenbunkers.
Grawemeyer Hall honchos
now barely visible,
like “anonymous crap.”
Sensory deprivation nears
now smells seeping in foul
like solitary in the Marion pen.
87 Dollars and sense // Jul 31, 2008 at 1:46 pm
Rivercity and beyung—
Money, especially visions of big money, color one’s judgment when everyone (from state legislature to incoming freshmen) is breathing down one’s financial neck . So in some respects the University President is as much a victim as anyone. This said, somewhere along the academic path we left character and scholarship standing by themselves while we approached the altar of tag lines, brand names, ad nauseum marketing, and consumer appeal. There are two fixes. Hire a university president and provost who are charged (and given the authority and have the depth of character and intellectual ability) to maintain integrity and hire a financial officer who answers to the academy, rather than the other way around.
Fix number two. We all share in this pathetic, yet ineluctable, scenario that will simply repeat itself unless WE implement change. Write your government representatives, email Northup and Mitchell, submit questions to the U of L faculty senate, send pageonekentucky to everyone you know in the state, write letters to the editor (I know, the C-J isn’t worth it, but if they get deluged with emails, they’ll notice), notify nationally syndicated columnists about this story, talk to your lawyer friends, ask family members whose tax dollars go to U of L for their opinions, and most of all, keep at it!
Jake—- fantastic work!! You embody all the best that is the new world of blogging and individual-community ownership. Thank you.
88 jake // Jul 31, 2008 at 1:49 pm
I appreciate the thanks people continually give me. But we need to be clear that this isn’t about me at all.
The folks who deserve thanks are those who have agreed to speak with me in the communities of law enforcement and higher education. Without them we would never have been able to bring this story to life.
89 Always Amazed // Jul 31, 2008 at 2:03 pm
Love the ‘ville! Great poem.
90 ed // Jul 31, 2008 at 2:34 pm
Jake,
That may be true, but it certainly begs the question of why no one other than you was talking to those people. From out of the gate, you’ve had all the information long before anyone else even knew about it.
Sorry, man, just can’t let you get away with being too modest here.
91 Tirnstile // Jul 31, 2008 at 2:36 pm
snap snap, LTV.
So, I’m looking at the WHAS site to see if I can beat Jake to any recent updates (yeah, right). I see another story from yesterday (w/video link) that has some amazing analogies to Bobby’s greatest hits. But I’ll let you watch & decide….
92 Blowin' in the Wind // Jul 31, 2008 at 2:42 pm
dollars and sense…agree with all your points, especially the importance of keeping it up!!! Some are just waiting for it to go away without realizing it can’t and won’t.
93 UofHell Escapee // Jul 31, 2008 at 4:21 pm
I appreciate your sentiments Dollar and Sense, but I believe higher education is irredeemable—at least given present economic/cultural contexts. The idea of the university operating in the public interest has pretty much been destroyed; same applies to government.
I do believe, however, that it is not asking too much for universities to resist balled-faced corruption and for universities to be civil workplaces.
The UofHell is remarkable case because as an institution it embodies some of the most extreme examples of corruption in higher education (including patronage, nepotism, despotism and, as seems clear in Little Bobby’s case, malfeasance).
Moveover, the UofHell’s lack of civility as a workplace has a long inglorious history and it’s not just limited to CEHD, although CEHD was and is one of the pettiest and most abusive workplaces I’ve ever encountered (even before Felner arrived).
Usually the stakes in higher education are pretty low. In CEHD for example, you had your typical empire-building that aimed at serving the interests of one or a select few faculty members/administrators. Think Chuck and his elementary education program; Tori’s early childhood “research” scam (basically an exercise in feeding at the pork trough in Frankfort…has she ever had a competitive grant?); the folks past and present in SPED (Tom, Denny, etc) who used the distance education program to create their own personal slush fund…and there’s Bush’s pathetic little kingdom. And that’s just one group of cronies in one department.
And of course you had the years long “benevolent dictatorship” of Nystrand, which established an administrative program of feudal rule, which has never been seriously challenged by the faculty in CEHD (even though Nystrand cared less about the college he supposedly ran than he did about the Cards).
These little empires, cliques, and “lords of CEHD,” pretty much operated with impunity for years, creating a noxious atmosphere for the serfs and peasants. But most importantly, these empire-builders and their hangers-on (who were not politically skilled enough to get their hands on large amounts of pork, think Karp and Robert “Peter Principle” Ronau) operated without any really grand designs. These folks were small-minded enough to be content to have their little playground in a backwater unit of a university that had more money than sense.
But, what is significant about all of this is that CEHD and the UofHell was the “perfect host” for Little Bobby, who, despite is diminutive stature and sense of ethics, thought big when it came to despotism and real estate.
Once you start trying cleaning house in CEHD you’ll find you then have to clean house over in Grawemeyer too and then at CPE and then Frankfort. So, that’s why I’m pessimistic about higher education, particularly in Kentucky.
But I do like the idea of taking the No Child Left Behind approach of school reconstitution (which aims to enhance human capital at low performing schools by firing everyone and starting over) and applying it to CEHD and UofLHell, but that will likely remain a fantasy…in the mean time I’m hopeful that we’ll at least get to see Little Bobby’s life ruined and maybe, just maybe, he’ll take a few of the scumbags who held his hand (literally and figuratively) with him down the highway to hell on earth.
94 Love the 'Ville, Not UofL // Jul 31, 2008 at 7:39 pm
“In the Comfort of Grawemeyer Hall”
Jim: “I’m tired of hearing about all that fool ‘suffering’ in the CEHD.”
CEHD Staffer: “As Proust put it, ‘We are healed of a suffering only by expressing it to the full.’”
Shirley: “I specialize in communication and never heard it put quite that way.”
CEHD Staffer: “As Weil said, ‘The capacity to give one’s attention to a sufferer is a very rare and difficult thing; it is almost a miracle.’”
Jim: “As a Christian, I can believe in miracles, but suffering is something to be endured.”
CEHD Staffer: “You need to read Oscar Wilde–and I quote: ‘I can sympathize with everything, except suffering.’”
Shirley: “This is what the warden in ‘Cool Hand Luke’ called ‘a failure to communicate.’”
CEHD Staffer: “Thanks for speaking up–finally.”
95 Dirty Laundry // Jul 31, 2008 at 7:40 pm
Wow UofLEscapee — that was an amazing blast and talk about airing the dirty laundry. Ouch.
If your pessimism is justified — it will indeed take a concerted effort to change the culture in the CEHD and elsewhere, if it is even possible.
On a side note — I finally found the time to read through the 30+ complaints and grievances; and maybe I missed it, but did anyone notice that of the 33 items — only two (one in 2005 and one in 2007) were anonymous or unsigned. So for four years — folks were openly and officially notifying the administration of serious problems; and it wasn’t until 2008 — that a series of anonymous or unsigned letters were sent all within a 4 month time period — and those still only account for 5 of the 33 total.
Just pisses my off all over again when I think about Ramsey’s arrogant dismissal of the complaints as crap or cheap.
It would be great if the entire faculty would crash the August or September Faculty Senate meeting and demand an opportunity to question Ramsey about those statements.
96 jake // Jul 31, 2008 at 7:42 pm
Maybe members of the media (Adam Walser, Mark Hebert) could be there to ask questions…
97 Midfielder // Aug 1, 2008 at 8:50 am
Even the staff at CEHD has a reputation for in-group clique-behavior. The style of gossip, fear, ostracism and personal relationships trumping professional role permeates this level of UofL, as well.
Then there was the big push for the surveys to show UofL was one of the “best places to work.”
General UofL rule: whatever is plastered as special achievement all over the website, press releases and vid bites is EXACTLY what is not not “happening here.” Instead of actually fixing problems, this administration spends its energies on generating public relations insisting the problem not only does not exist, but that the situation is an actual strength (e.g. Felner, CEHD rankings, “best places to work”, critical thinking, UofL as “feeder school for Harvard Law” [HUH?], football coach specializes in character development, etc.)
I can’t wait for us all to proclaim that we are producing thousands of “critical thinkers”. We will once again pretend to do this, submit bogus superficial data (showing that students have learned to check “yes” when asked “did you learn to evaluate arguments and analyze data?”and proclaim to high heaven that our grads are now able to do what we’ve taught them to say.
How to “educate Kentucky citizens” and double our output by 2020: 1) buy a big copying machine, 2) print diplomas, 3) sell them online. Make sure “students” memorize things like “diversity is beneficial” and “critically evaluate arguments”. Call it distance education and a technological marvel putting Our State in the forefront of progress. Generate revenue for the Cards. Host parties for alums. Call it good.
98 Not fond of Jim // Aug 1, 2008 at 8:51 am
Why Ramsey doesn’t read blogs:
“It’s a bunch of anonymous crap.”
99 Give us a break... // Aug 1, 2008 at 9:12 am
Midfielder: Excellent points. Can I add: Keep raising tuition and charging students 30% more for online courses. Give huge salary raises to those who play the game (which leaves little for the rest).
100 Blowin' in the Wind // Aug 1, 2008 at 9:17 am
I can’t help it Midfielder, luv ya! Your latest would be the best laugh I’ve had all week–if I weren’t crying for the sheer waste and destruction! and besides, I get to do the 100th on this strand!
101 Love the 'Ville, Not UofL // Aug 1, 2008 at 10:14 am
“By the CEHD Water Cooler”
Hotlander: “It’s a shame. Robert had such great values.”
Roamer: “And I would protect them by roaming the halls and strolling over to Taco Bell–and then report any dissenting views, like ‘Robert rules by fear and intimidation.’ What a crock.”
CEHD Staffer: “But Bobby was, as George Eliot used to say, ‘like a cock who thought the sun had risen to hear him crow.’”
Springsteen: “It took me some time to figure it out, but he did seem arrogant toward the end. And I know ‘arrogance’ when I see it, like when I pick up a toothbrush and lean into . . .”
Carpfish: “I wonder if he had any fake friends besides us. But, as my favorite poet Shelley put it, ‘To be omnipotent but friendless is to reign.’”
CEHD Staffer: “When he went on endlessly at his blowhard ‘town-hall meetings,’ he would say that he was not here to make friends.”
Hotlander: “Right, he was here to speak his great values.”
CEHD Staffer: “He was a small man in many ways. As my preacher in Connecticut, William Sloan Coffin, liked to say: ‘There is no smaller package in all the world then that of a man all wrapped up in himself.’”
Petrotsky: “I knew he was on the edge of ethics–something like Shu. Now, I feel so empty, so meek, so week. The bucks were too tempting.”
Carpfish: “Let’s have a party at Vicki’s and forget this ever happened. Work a plan for the next dean.”
Roamer: “Yeah, nothing else to do with no grants comin’ in any time soon.”
Dumond: “I say we adopt my standard operating procedure: do and say nothing. All this will boil over. I’m goin’ to Flabby’s.”
Hotlander: “Do you think Robert was insane or evil?”
CEHD Staffer: “Who knows? But I have warned Jim and Shirley about Thomas Wolfe’s wise admonition: ‘It is very comforting to believe that leaders who do terrible things are, in fact, mad. That way, all we have to do is make sure we don’t put psychotics in high places and we’ve got the problem solved.’”
102 Dollars and Sense // Aug 1, 2008 at 12:38 pm
UofHell Escapee:
“Higher education,” not the organizational institution, rests in the hands of those who choose to pursue and support it. Some of the best educated, decent, and concerned people I ever met have been outside the “hallowed walls” [or should that be hollowed walls, not sure]. I’d urge you to consider yourself an educator and to use your experiences to inform your teaching. Model what higher education should be, not what it’s come to be packaged as. True education, as many have said and written, is a radical and potentially subversive power— it’s why we denied it to slaves in our past, why we trivialize it now (we do more exhortation and political correctness than genuine questioning), and keep information hidden (or worse, distorted).
I’d enjoy sharing some of these thoughts over coffee sometime, UofHell Escapee, if we can both agree we’re not part of a sting operation to catch all the subversive types contributing to this blog:)
With that in mind, has anyone considered that the contributors to this discussion could be part of an open committee of concerned learners/citizens/educators?
103 Blowin' in the Wind // Aug 1, 2008 at 1:14 pm
I love the idea…we just need to figure out how to do it without blowing our various and sundry covers.
104 alum // Aug 1, 2008 at 1:28 pm
U of L’s new slogan is “It’s happening here.”
I’ve seen many students adding an “Sh” before the statement.
So true.
105 jake // Aug 1, 2008 at 1:33 pm
It’s probably not a good idea to discuss meeting here on Page One.
But I can happily facilitate something via private email. That is, of course, if those interested agree to state that they’re not going to out anybody.
106 Blowin' in the Wind // Aug 1, 2008 at 2:36 pm
I PROMISE, I PROMISE, I PROMISE!!!!!!
107 Love the 'Ville, Not UofL // Aug 1, 2008 at 2:37 pm
“CEHD Student Recruitment”
Prospective Doctoral Student: “Am I in the right place for student services?”
Dr. Pantwaste: “Yeah, hon, it’s happening here. We want you to dare to be great.”
Prospective Doctoral Student: “Too much appears to be happening. I’m more than a bit suspicious. But I have a dissertation topic already in mind.”
Dr. Pantwaste: “Which is, sunny boy?”
Propsective Doctoral Student: “‘Robert Felner: A Case Study of Evil in Academe.’ I’m in higher ed.”
Dr. Pantwaste: “It would have to be qualitative, and that’s too bad. It rules out those who were closest to Robert from being on your committee–like Carpfish, Roamer, Springsteen. Dumond might be a possibility. I believe his one article was a case study.”
Potential Doctoral Student: “Now that Felner is no longer here, would stocky, non-females who are not blond and under 30 be eligible for a fellowship?”
Dr. Pantwaste: “No problem. You still might need to take an oath of allegiance, but I hear our new interim dean could loosen that requirement.”
Prospective Doctoral Student: “I’ll think about it. It’s either you or Argosy, Troy, Cappella, or Walden. Does Indiana U.-Southeast have a doctoral prorgram?”
108 Dollars and Sense // Aug 1, 2008 at 3:09 pm
Jake—
I’d agree to such an arrangment. At least you could test the waters to see if there’s any interest.
Blowin’ in the Wind—we can simply agree not to reveal our blog names—unless, of course, you and I are the only ones to show up in which case I think I can figure it out– at least on my good days.
By the way, to those who may be U of L employees: the courts (California, I belive) are currently reviewing a lawsuit brought by a U of California faculty member claiming that his university retaliated against him for “being critical of the administration” in written and oral reports. The issue is whether as a public university employee he is protected by first amendment rights in the discharge of his administrative, non-teaching duties. Some are predicting that the court will decide that no special rights apply… this could be chilling. So a word to the wise: as long as we exercise our critical thinking with respect to the administration as private citizens we are protected by first amendment rights; do it as part of your job and who knows what’s coming down the pike. And as midfielder might write, “and we’re supposed to be teaching critical thinking to undergraduates, HUH?”
Add another sad commentary on the state of modern education and another point for hypocrisy.
109 Love the 'Ville, Not UofL // Aug 1, 2008 at 7:14 pm
“Vice Can Be Rewarding”
Inspector Brandeis: “Why would Felner saddle you with the title ‘Vice Dean’?”
Dr. Larcen: “No idea, sir. I’m a country gal from Kansas.”
Inspector Brandeis: “My dictionary describes ‘vice’ in negative terms, as in ‘moral weakness,’ ‘badness,’ ‘immoral practice,’ etc. In a word, ‘vice’ offends the moral standards of the community.”
Dr. Larcen: “Could Robert have been referring to himself?”
Inspector Brandeis: “Now, could it be ‘vice’ as in a salary close to the Dean’s?”
Dr. Larcen: “No way. If you check, I’m underpaid compared to many of the other associate and assistant deans. But it is hard to keep us all straight.”
Inspector Brandeis: “So, you got screwed. Now, can you come up with any positive connotations ‘vice’ might have?”
Dr. Larcen: “Let me put on my English ed cap. Yep, just think of ‘vice’ as in ‘vice president.’”
Inspector Brandeis: “Now, I see–as in Nixon, Agnew, Quayle, Cheney.”
Dr. Larcen: “It fits the atmosphere around here, doesn’t it?”
110 LarryLurker // Aug 1, 2008 at 7:47 pm
Hey Love the ‘Ville (aka EDITED, former asst prof at UofL, now at Podunk U) don’t you think you’ve hurt enough people already today? Or should we be digging up your salary and other personal details and discussing ‘em here?
Not smart, not smart.
111 rivercity gal // Aug 1, 2008 at 8:01 pm
Larry Lurker…are you enjoying continuing Robert Felner’s bad habits?
112 jake // Aug 1, 2008 at 10:03 pm
Lurker: It’d probably help if you knew what you were talking about. Unfortunately for you, you don’t.
Your comment is being edited. You don’t get to out people here unless you actually have evidence.
113 UofHell Escapee // Aug 1, 2008 at 10:38 pm
As for a meeting of folks posting to this blog….would be lot’s of fun, but I don’t trust any of you that I don’t already know. ;)
114 wc // Aug 2, 2008 at 10:07 am
A meeting of people writing on this blog could be interesting and productive, but it could only be attended by people who would be willing to come without disguise and to be recognized as having attended such a meeting. I have been to two such meetings in the past and attendees’ names were taken by a mole and given to Robert Felner. Luckily, none of us cared that we were outed as being faculty members who attended meetings to discuss what must be done to save the college. We all knew we were taking a risk and decided it was worth it.
But, we all paid for it. We were all put on the Enemies List after that and we all suffered from it–some in small ways such as not being invited to participate in certain projects; some in less small ways such as being told by new faculty not to work with us. Others suffered in major ways such as being publically attacked and humilated or even by not getting tenure. (One of the worst cases was an assistant professor who had a much better record than a few favored people who followed her, but she was denied and they were promoted.)
And just because Felner is no longer in the college does not mean retailiation won’t still happen. There are many others who are still in power and can get you disinvited, criticized, or attacked. I am sorry to say this, but at this point, attending such a meeting might not be good for us. Good for a sense of integrity, but (maybe) not so good for careers.
Many, many faculty members did not agree with what was going on in the college, but they chose to look the other way. Many attempted to hunker down and just get work done. These people cannot be blamed. (However, more than a few were given questions to pose about a person’s tenure case in order to make the candidate look weak. And they did so as ordered. It seems they voted as ordered as well. There is no excuse for that.) Still, in general, I have come to forgive some of those who attempted to ignore what was going on to save themselves.
However, having said that. I would not change what I did for anything in the world. I am proud that I had the integrity to attend the meetings and speak up about injustice. I believe most of my fellow victims feel the same way, even though they suffered (in some cases, severely).
So–before deciding to attend such a public meeting, think hard about this choice. It could change your life. Maybe for the better, or maybe not.
115 Not UofL connected // Aug 2, 2008 at 10:07 am
About being “outed”: not a good idea.
About not trusting those one doesn’t “already know”: good idea.
I was “outed” on a CJ blog where commentary got out of hand, threats were made, and either the blog manager or one of the posters (with whom I’d exchanged emails through the blog manager) outed me. I was not happy–not that I don’t stand behind whatever I say, but obviously some of those people were unhinged and I felt a lot less safe afterwards. I regret trusting them.
And here, as Felner’s unfolding craziness and criminality demonstrates, backlash can be awful and meeting could risk getting involved in unintended events.
Be careful.
And thanks Jake for your careful monitoring yet very informative job here.
116 Blowin' in the Wind // Aug 2, 2008 at 10:35 am
Unfortunately the current situation makes it dangerous even for those not connected with U of L to meet. The stench of the slaughterhouse is still in the air. Perhaps we should take ed’s suggestion and meet on a far-away island…I’ve seen a lot in fifty years in education, but this probably ranks no 1 for awfulness.
117 T'aint Simple // Aug 2, 2008 at 12:23 pm
Jake: you’re editing Larry Lurker for outing people (though I couldn’t recognize anyone), but pure libel is apparently fine if one is a victim! Nice.
118 jake // Aug 2, 2008 at 12:29 pm
Uh, I edited the comment because “Larry Lurker” named someone who wasn’t commenting.
Pure libel? You need to read the 2.5 banker boxes I have filled with Felner material. Along with all of Shirley & Jim’s emails that are available via public record. Then I think you’ll have a different opinion and would feel silly for throwing around the term “libel”…
119 Righting the Ship // Aug 2, 2008 at 12:45 pm
WC’s comments
Are right on. It would have been nice if central administration would have taken a stance supporting the faculty who endured Felner’s “crap” and had created an open forum for everyone to discuss the abuse, mistakes, etc. But instead, they circled the wagons again prefering to ignore the problem and deflect discussion away from the abuseive enviroment. This tactic has worked in the past, just ignore it and it will go away. It won’t.
How did Glenn Close put it: “I will not be ignored”
120 Always Amazed // Aug 2, 2008 at 1:36 pm
I think it’s not safe for any of us to meet until after indictments have been made and Dr. Ramsey has publicly stated what his intentions are to start the healing process. Right now it’s much like when the Archbishops kept covering up the Catholic Church sexual abuse scandal.
And T’aint Simple, you don’t have a clue what’s it’s like to be a victim. Boo hoo.
121 Always Amazed // Aug 2, 2008 at 1:38 pm
Forgot one thing….keep it coming Love the ‘Ville!
122 Give us a break... // Aug 2, 2008 at 2:41 pm
How about a class action suit against the University for allowing us to exist in an environment that caused PTSD?
123 Dollars and Sense // Aug 2, 2008 at 3:57 pm
OK— got the message about meeting. Sad, but understandable and prudent.
Jake– have you sent this story with follow up to the Chronicle of Higher Education? U of L is being presented as a “great place to work” with excellent ratings on internal communication and trust in the higher administration. Doesn’t sound like the U of L I’ve come to know through this blog…
124 beyung // Aug 2, 2008 at 5:02 pm
Always Amazed & Give Us a Break -
I’m not from the UofL – but from a past University which suffered under the reign of Felner. He wasn’t quite as affective in ruining people’s lives because he wasn’t Dean – but that didn’t stop him from doing a lot of damage. The University I worked for passed him on to you with knowledge of many filed gievances and lawsuits. I was in therapy for a year for PTFD – and all I can say to all of you is that I understand your anger and pain wholeheartedly. I also understand that if you let your anger consume you – Felner will have won. I’ve refused to let him be a part of my life anymore – and I’m not judging any of you – because it takes time. Don’t meet – don’t file a class action – don’t let this one man consume your lives anymore. This site has allowed you to vent – and, I ,for one, am eternally grateful to Jake because he has aided in my healing. Robert will be punished accordingly if guilty, as will the Uof L and all of the people who supported him. Keep the faith.
125 Billie Whitted // Aug 2, 2008 at 5:12 pm
I would like to see the 30+ pages of grievances and complaints against Felner at U of L. Where do I look?
126 jake // Aug 2, 2008 at 5:22 pm
See Robert Felner’s name on the navigation menu on the left-hand side of this website? Click it. That’s how you find all the stories about Felner.
But here are two stories about the grievances: This one is a list of 30+ grievances and complaints and this one is about the rise in grievances and complaints at UofL.
127 wc // Aug 2, 2008 at 9:20 pm
Jake, what emails are you referring to? Ramsey’s emails about what? To whom?
128 jake // Aug 2, 2008 at 9:41 pm
Like I said, all email.
129 elkam // Aug 2, 2008 at 10:24 pm
There is much vitriole being spewed on this site. A number of individuals don’t deserve the criticism in my experience as a doctoral student (Bush, Larson). The “original” leadership team has some difficult history to overcome. For instance, two of the LT are married which is not allowed in one college or division at many universities.
Where was “everyone” for 5 years while Felner was doing his damage??
Louisville and JCPS needsthis College/School to be successful. Things need to heal and soon. Let’s let these folks get on with it.
130 jake // Aug 2, 2008 at 10:31 pm
There’s vitriole here because no one can get any assistance at the University of Louisville.
Ever considered that your experience may not be the experience of others? Everyone else has shared their experience and why they have positive or negative opinions. Why don’t you do the same?
Where was everyone for Felner’s five years? They were filing complaint and grievance after complaint and grievance. Only to have the PRESIDENT OF THE UNIVERSITY dismiss their legitimate and deeply personal concerns as “crap.” That’s where.
No one can heal or get on with anything as long as this dog and pony show is playing out before the public eye.
131 elkam // Aug 2, 2008 at 11:02 pm
Point taken. As a former student and alum who cares about UofL, I did not realize how “bad” things were in Education.
I hope the new dean and other good people – and there are many who work and study there – will help the college heal.
132 jake // Aug 2, 2008 at 11:08 pm
You’re right. There are hundreds of good people there. And it may not seem like it by reading this site, but most have already started the healing process. (They bitch and moan here when we share news. It’s cathartic.)
It will most likely be faculty who end up making things ‘right’ (only word I can think of at the moment, still suffering from the plague) when the time comes… because it appears the faculty are on their own without leadership.
One important thing I have noticed throughout the past couple months is that no matter how bitter and upset people are– no matter how emotional and beaten down– everyone has the same desire to succeed and do what they were put on this earth to do.
Robert Felner, a president who calls their grievances “crap,” and a higher education system that tosses swindlers around like dice in a cup… none of it can keep the faculty and those from Felner’s past down. They all seem like the kind of folks who will move on to do great things and will all be better for what they have each had to go through in their own right.
133 marie // Aug 3, 2008 at 3:42 am
Just thinking about “Give us a break” ‘s post…
I requested a meeting where the director told me that he felt I had been affected “personally” but not “professionally” by my work situation. This is when I aired the issues before my supervisor, her boss, and someone I invited from Personnel. And I brought to the meeting a brochure outlining the seriousness of unrelenting stress; my boss would say that if she wasn’t always pushing, she believed the work wouldn’t get done. Sigh… The director said OK!
What was so ironic and counterproductive was that the brochure was part of the periodic mailing from a company that Humana contracted with that provided you with a health coach if you signed on to a ‘Get Healthy Now’ program during open enrollment. My coach would call, they always call you at work, and I would describe the source of my unrelenting stress in a whisper. Since Humana works with and through these groups to try and keep health costs down, I never understood why they wouldn’t want to, at least anonymously,
get the information to someone who could do something (as in change the work culture).
134 Always Amazed // Aug 3, 2008 at 10:01 am
Beyung – I know there is great wisdom in the “forgive and forget” philosophy, but when there are situations involving people whose careers and financial status were affected by Felner’s illegal actions, they need to know that they have the legitimate right to due process here. Give Us A Break – I hope that those of you who are suffering directly from the hands of Felner seek legal advice when determinations are made regarding Felner’s illegal activities and Ramsey’s response to those affected by those illegal activities.
Maybe we should start campaigning for Bob Hill to write his first book in retirement about this Felner affair. I would trust him to tell everyone’s story with dignity, respect, and delicious humor that will start the healing process.
135 justwondering // Aug 3, 2008 at 12:29 pm
In this university system, there seems to be no justice. When the president of the university shruggs off our concerns and complaints just “a crap.” What do you expect from so called grievances, etc. that are controlled by the university itself. My question,
Do we have to always go through university’s grievances committees, etc. Under what conditions can we sue the university for retaliation and Felner’s illegal activities as individuals or classaction suit.
136 jake // Aug 3, 2008 at 12:38 pm
You can sue for anything.
Get a good attorney who is familiar with the Kentucky Revised Statutes and employment law. Somebody worth their weight could probably put together a nice class-action suit specifically relating to Felner.
I’d recommend Scott Cox, but he’s already Felner’s attorney.
Ann Oldfather is probably the toughest attorney on earth, plus she’s effing amazing in the courtroom. I’d love to see her handle another high-profile case.
137 justwondering // Aug 3, 2008 at 12:56 pm
Jake,
You are just wonderful. Thanks for the information. You have done a huge favor to all of us who are in great pain. Our professional and private lives have been destroyed. You have given us a shoulder when we needed the most. You are our real hero.
138 jake // Aug 3, 2008 at 12:58 pm
I appreciate the kind words. Really, I do.
But all I’ve done is write a few stories and promote others.
Everyone who feels better feels better because they’ve allowed themselves to feel better.
139 Give us a break... // Aug 3, 2008 at 1:22 pm
Jake, you have responded in a manner that we have not experienced from the University through this whole Felner fiasco. You have actually listened to us and believed there is another side of the story. Given what we have gone through in the last 5 years, that’s a huge gift. It yet remains to be seen whether anything will change in CEHD or the broader University, but your digging for information and giving us a place to share our experiences and feelings has been – - –
Ramsey: $400,000+
Felner: $250,000+
Jake: Priceless
140 Midfielder // Aug 3, 2008 at 1:44 pm
I don’t think there’s any reason why anyone from this site can’t contact the reporters at the Chronicle to give them information about this. As someone with deep respect for data, I am horrified at the Chronicle listing UofL as one of the best places to work and citing our “faith in higher administration.”
Did anyone reading these posts participate in this survey? Do you know anyone who did?
You can contact the CHE and request anonymity; the reporter(s) will do their own digging. This is probably the only even that would motivate a response from Jim or Shirley.
If the grievances were crap and if the outside conflict resolution company favored administration over faculty, you know ONLY going outside UofL will have any effect.
These people respond to two things only: the economic bottom line and the PR that affects it.
Go to the Chronicle, go to the NYTimes. I will contact Vanity Fair and The New Yorker. Even if these media don’t pick up the story, it will help to feel less passive and victimized.
Plus somebody at this point needs to do the big review piece, pulling everything about Felner together into one story. If desired, they could look at a few others of his ilk; I have dealt with two, myself. Why does it take so long to bring them down, despite being caught in ethics violations or fraud repeatedly? Does having this sort of character facilitate success in getting grants (Felner plus my two were very successful in this domain.) How does this tie in to the commercialization of the university?
That could be the theme of various articles.
141 jake // Aug 3, 2008 at 2:06 pm
Give us a break: I wish I was priceless! And wish I could make a tenth of what Jim Ramsey makes. Or a hundredth of what Felner allegedly swindled. Hell, who am I kidding? I’d be happy with more advertisers so I can buy an iPhone.
Midfielder: When I gave the reporter at the Chronicle assigned to the story records obtained through an open records request, he blew me off. One of the documents– an official document I received via an open records request– was minutes and information about the vote of no-confidence. The guy refused to take it seriously because it was coming from a mere blogger and needed to verify it for himself. Very easy to verify, of course, but nothing ever came of it.
Since then there’s been almost no interest. The original reporter has been reassigned. I hear he’s keep his eye on this story, but there won’t be any real interest until this all plays out in court.
I tried in vain to get legitimate media outlets to take this story off my hands so I didn’t have to write it. No one would. One prominent reporter told me there just wasn’t any public interest in this and that it was story just for me. Though, this past weekend folks overheard him talking to someone about how the story has turned into quite possibly one of the most scandalous he’s ever encountered. Then, of course, he took all the credit for keeping the story alive for his news outlet.
The Courier-Journal repeatedly blew me off when I tried to hand over information. Some of the reporters assigned to the story contacted me for help understanding the story. Then bam, nothing.
The only folks who get it and the only ones who care are those who don’t have to answer to mega-million dollar advertisers and the University of Louisville or affiliated schools.
142 wc // Aug 3, 2008 at 3:06 pm
VERY interesting strand of ideas here. First, I believe that Ann Oldfather was the attorney for Felner’s first victim in the College. His complaint (among many others) is not listed because he didn’t send anything to the provost. (Keep in mind that MANY complaints were made to others besides the provost and thus we have not seen them.) Anyway, I heard that Oldfather scared the heck out of the university and thus they quietly settled. I hope this particular victim is reading this blog and confirms.
The big story idea is a good one. The Chronicle would be the best place. Maybe the back page? Hmmm. It would be fun to write.
Yes, an autobiography of Felner by Bob Hill would be interesting, but Felner might get royalties and none of us could stomach reading it.
Law suit? Is it against the law for a boss to scream at someone in a hallway? Stand up at the podium at a meeting and mock a faculty member’s research? Tell everyone there are too many fat women working in his office? Tell new faculty members they are not permitted to work with those on his Enemies List? Give some new faculty all sorts of perks and resources while denying others? Gather the “leadership team” to ask hostile questions of someone they do not like? Disregard an entire department’s needs because he simply isn’t interested in their work? Pay his student girlfriend a salary bigger than professors with 20 years? (Hmm, that one actually might be against the law…) Allow one Department Chair to organize new faculty to do and say what she wishes in order to hurt others? Force faculty to work on silly agendas that do no one any good except RF himself? Waste a lot of time and money?
Are these suing offenses? I do not think so. However, they are good material for a back page article in the CHE.
I guess the adminstration is thinking that in 3 weeks the semester will begin and we will all stop blogging and begin to prepare for our classes and write more articles.
But guess what? I can let TV go. Stop reading the newspaper. Maybe shorten my workout a bit. But I am not going to stop reading or writing blogs on this topic until we get an apology.
143 Postman Rings2x // Aug 3, 2008 at 3:44 pm
I wish I could disagree with Jake’s take on the establishment hoping and praying this blog focus on not only Bobby but the larger issue of Incompetence or willful malpractice by the UofL Central Administration will finally run out of stem.
It really is up to us and it has been the case all along.
So this note is written for different audiences as you see below.
We will not desist until justice is served and the CEHD is liberated from the misguided leadership noted so well above in the blog.
so, first;
Dear Jim, Shirley, IRS, UofL Board of Trustees Governor of KY, uhm Council of Post secondary Education? Chronicle of Higher Ed…who else”? ACU, our attorney general:
This is an open letter that is currently being prepared for the above parties before we have to file a class action suit. I for one will sign it and ask many of you to do so once we tone it down a bit so we the people can prevail upon dishonesty, and the misguided leadership at UofL that allowed our serial Bobby to construct and reign over UofhelL.
We know many of you higher ups and “professional” reporters monitor pageone as it leads some of you to do your investigative work. While I do not wish to interrupt the lil’Bobby upcomings show, after watching Ramsey today on the web defend Bobby and knowing both he and Shirley deliberately rejected the facts we (faculty in the college of education) documented for them (see below) over and over…. let’s articulate again the basic problem now for the people of Kentucky and the’Ville.
There seem to be at least 2 CLEAR options now that the cats are out of this bag.
1.
Either the President and Provost are, as the facts reveal, incompetent,or unethical, absorbed in their hubris, not too bright persons or some combination of these not necessarily criminal charges, persons who equate bucks with brains regardless of values; persons so naive in accepting questionable data for the UofL Scorecard while ignoring the FIRE in our college,
..In which case both need to be fired ASAP
for unsatisfactory performance and ineffective leadership, not to mention misrepresenting facts before the Trustees and the public…
or, else,
both or one must have had their bread buttered by lil’ Bobby ;
so wake up IRS and follow the money trail just in case…..while you are at it,
maybe rule out if it is just not incompetence?
But as many of you know.. both Jim and Shirley socialized with Bobby and some of those so overpaid in this underproductive “team. ..”
To what extent are conflicts of interest of interest to those who appointed them?
We know such conflicts did not bother Jim and Shirley any more than Bobby (example can be provided upon request)
2.
…so why would they listen to us then? Will the real leaders in KY listen now?
If they are clean, which we hope, we know it is time to wake up those entrusted by the good citizens of KY to discontinue their two appointments and get their resignations NOW.
Under no circumstance should they impose this interim dean with strong connections to this trio without FACULTY GOVERNANCE by secret ballot and with more experienced tenured/able faculty in the pool.
Point 3. Board of Trustees, Governor, other decision makers and leaders:
They are not highly regarded by most honest deans so ask them too. Why would Jim defend his Bobby so much as he watched reputable top faculty leave? Was this just “crap” in his words?
Apparently Ramsey fell asleep on this one too so why not take the time to conduct exit interviews and check out the reputation of those who left versus those he surrounded himself with…
oh but that is Shirley’s job is it not?
I understand some did check before hiring Bobby..it was also ignored…is this a pattern?
Pay attention this time.
Perhaps it is good idea to NOT accept more bonuses, in fact, while we think of it – how about having the overpaid incompetent lot of them return some of the money for the kids in this state who really really need a better education.
Yes we need better teachers from this college but
Please, please don’t have those Bobby brought in without faculty governance through the back door who would not have a channce in a TIER I school,.. those sell outs in the Leadership Impaired Team go back to teaching.
Perhaps offer these faux faculty who have dishonored our profession early retirement with the bucks they already took from our KY taxpayers. If the Feds and Foundations won’t fund them now, why should we Kentuckians?
Why pay them until they retire with those inflated undeserved salary levels Mr. President?.., this is your watch (& all you decision-makers we elect) …..and will the people again will have to continue to subsidize, bail out these losers while the college tries to recoup.
?? Dare to be Great!
This group can’t get funded now, would not let others have a shot, nor are they to be trusted to teach nor can they write competitively in top journals ….
and your plan and Shirley’s is to retain them for years to undereducate our students?.
Rankings? Who is manipulating them?
Maybe the Commonwealth can’t afford your looking the other way on this one .
Do the right thing….resign but only after you clean up your mess.
There is a Way
There is this thing called disciplinary action that can trump the ill-gotten tenure of Bobby’s leadership impaired crowd, and believe it or not, very few of them could be approved for tenure in a Tier II so take them with you elsewhere.
Allow the system to work as it should.
Who would want their children taught by them?
(Oh sorry again , I forgot, you don’t care who Bobby hires with state lines and all that faculty governance bothersome stuff (which btw is how we faculty prevent underqualified new hires).
So if you are there, UofL Board of Regents and Attny. General and Postsecondary Council, IRS et al….it is simple.
Last Point.
Regardless of Bobby
If the President and provost are just incompetent, stop the bleeding. ..resign or be fired -stop this now and what would come for years if you let this go on.
If not, the IRS will find out anyway if a conflict of interest existed even if such has not mattered to the central administration.
We/I am tired of watching decent, talented students try to get a decent education in this misled college and watch new faculty trying to survive your mess.
We KNOW you BOTH knew about our concerns about grants over two years ago and did NOTHING.
(Available upon request)
You tried to hide for fear of what is happening now. It is all on emails and transcripts from meetings.
You KNEW about ethical violations and hostile climate in this college, unfit for ANY learning environment and you BOTH DID NOTHING, or worse, you aided and abetted your Bobby.
You unleashed him upon us and our students for a few more bucks promised and see where we are now…
You both leashed the University Attorney Angela Koshewa when the numerous complaints were presented and used her against the faculty – the faculty who are ultimately those who manage the college and should answer to the state…. and you both – ignored us and dishonored a decent college.
New faculty strive for funding in top schools, but who will want to come or remain here but those with already fat undeserved salaries?
Yes, this and more will be made public by other means than pageoneky.
else a class action suit against those responsible for PTSD and capacity to earn, thrive, not be harassed in the workplace……etc.
and NO, let us not forget the children in poverty who remain underserved while Northup and Bobby brag about how much they care and were doing to improve their education,
This is the REAL story too is it not?
Where did the Money go that JCPS can’t find it?
Would you trust Booby’ or his impaired team’s data? their past “scholarship” or the people he brings in to cook more data with all their experience in lying?
But it is no longer about him is it?
Is is not about us faculty who were hurt or had time wasted and lost …, and others now in the community in the Ville he tried or did damage to…
Both you (Jim and Shirley) failed the Commonwealth and our students for many years,
you did not do your job and were remiss,
you BOTH performed unsatisfactorily for years in very important areas, so
while the courts deal with lil’bobby and his honeybun, let’s have your resignations NOW before another academic year begins …do it for the Commonwealth.
Avoid wasting the people’s money on class action suits and endless animosity.
How could there not be an investigation after this? It is only a question of time now you know…
144 Blowin' in the Wind // Aug 3, 2008 at 4:00 pm
Amen to the long and passionate comments above.
Unfortunately, it will be a cold day in hell before the Chronicle of Higher Ed does any investigative reporting: Yale, Auburn, Illinois, Rhode Island and Louisville–there are a lot of advertising $$ there–and what do you think keeps the Chronicle alive?????
145 Awake Now // Aug 3, 2008 at 6:22 pm
Hey Postman–
What?!
Huh!?
It was bad, it is still bad, but huh?
Hey Blowin’ — Maybe Yale, Auburn, Illinois, and Rhode Island would very much LIKE the story to go to the CHE.
146 Blowin' in the Wind // Aug 3, 2008 at 7:10 pm
Right. And maybe each of them will give you an honorary degree for suggesting it.
147 marie // Aug 3, 2008 at 8:04 pm
wc, and everyone,
Not that I’m feeling litigious, I would rather see in-depth coverage of this mess, but everyone hurt at the CEHD would hopefully have some safety in numbers. But as for what is or isn’t a suable offense, again, as Give us a break put it: allowing people to exist in an environment that caused PTSD; somehow this can’t be okay. Everyone knew – all up and down the chain.
And trying to minimize it by quantifying it… that’s precisely the argument they use to dispute your claims of working in a hostile environment. If you weren’t yelled at that day, it can’t be that bad.
But it’s everything taken together over time, and ultimately, the stomach-churning anticipation of yet another “meeting” with no other purpose except to confuse and intimidate.
It is also policy changes/ policy made up on the spot, rules applied differently, withholding information, permanent assignments of time-consuming daily tasks that could be given to student workers and delay/prevent real work being done. It is having students do the opposite of priority work, getting anyone who is willing to drag their feet. My boss’s best friend was the director’s secretary and life was all the more hellish for that. My supervisor never disciplined the students, made me do it; she befriended them, and exchanged CDs. Very professional.
I saved selected emails with meeting notes or trainings to refer to when writing something for my review. Three months of those disappeared.
OLT restored them for me. Nobody remembered anything like that ever happening
before.
But the worst thing, and it shouldn’t be legal, is to go from getting ‘superior’ reviews to an ‘unsatisfactory,’ without having been written up once, in my ninth year, an entirely negative review necessitating for the first time in 20 years
an employee being put on the Performance Improvement Plan at Kornhauser Health Sciences Library.
This set off no bells or red flags. I, too, received a dismissive response from University Attorney Angela Koshewa. So with no severance, or unemployment benefits, or reference, I left.
Much like many in the CEHD, I imagine.
The director had all along insisted that the matter remain “internal” and that there be no mediation.
It was the strangest and worst time I’ve ever lived through. There are some great people there. But an awful lot of work doesn’t get done.
No fire in the belly!
148 SC // Aug 3, 2008 at 9:13 pm
Marie
Your story does sound horribly familiar. And reaffirms what I have observed many times — administrators in higher education do not possess the leadership or management skills to be in the positions they are in. For example, it would be unheard for an excellent scientist at GE who had invented and designed all the latest and greatest features on a new diswasher to become the CEO or CFO or COO of the dishwasher division unless that scientist also happened to possess some training, education, and experience in business, finance, human resource management, operations mangaement, and leadership. But it appears to become a Dean and in effect the CEO of a multi-million dollar division of an institution of higher education, one can be an Educational Pyschologist with experience in writing grants, and a huge ego — and be deemed qualified to manage and lead a workforce of 100′s. Clearly, this idea that success as an academic equates to the needed credentials to be an effective administrator in higher education, must be re-examined throughout higher education administration. You know they actually have a degree program to for people who want to be higher education administrators. Amazing.
149 marie // Aug 4, 2008 at 2:07 am
Thank you SC, Jake, and Everyone…
I am so grateful for this blog and for all your work, concern, and effort, Jake. I can’t express the difference it’s made for me without some trace of melodrama. I feel safer and less alone.
It’s a life-saver.
150 Always Amazed // Aug 4, 2008 at 1:20 pm
I’m just getting around to reading my Aug. 1st Louisville Sports Report and there is an interview with Mitch McConnell, where he talks about the great things happening at the UL McConnell Center and how he tailgates to all UL football games with Dave Huber, District Attorney. Yes it’s the same one investigating Felner. Dave and Mitch are bestest buddies – frat brothers, etc. Hmmm. Interesting thing to know.
151 jake // Aug 4, 2008 at 2:08 pm
That’s interesting and all, but it should be noted that Huber is one of the most honest and up-front USAs in the country. I doubt his McConnell ties have much to do with this Felner investigation.
152 beyung // Aug 4, 2008 at 5:26 pm
Always amazed – you wrote
“Beyung – I know there is great wisdom in the “forgive and forget” philosophy, but when there are situations involving people whose careers and financial status were affected by Felner’s illegal actions, they need to know that they have the legitimate right to due process”
here.
You are right, and you should take legal action if you feel it will do any good at all. The only point I was trying to make is that I let this man take over my life for a long time – I sought legal action – and was discouraged – so, I got a new job and turned to therapy. Believe me, I’m rooting for all of you to find some justice and make what you worked so hard to achieve both successful and peaceful. I apoligize if I made this sound like it should just be “forgive and forget” – I know that’s not possible. Yet, I hope that 10 years from now – you will rarely think of RF.
153 notshocked // Aug 7, 2008 at 10:59 pm
CEHD is not the only Department at UofL that needs an overhaul, the Kentucky pollution prevention center needs to be investigated. They are so arrogant that they won’t allow themselves to even be called a department. They currently have lawsuits against them and have one of the highest turnover in employees at the university. They have a board of directors that you would expect to question the high turnover, along with the dean of the speed school who is also on the board of directors and where the kentucky pollution prevention center is housed. The dean , repeatedly turns a blind eye to anything and everything going on there solidifying that “the bottom line” is all that matters”. If there is an ambitious reporter out there willing to do some digging, they may find a story that will rival the CEHD’s. Affirmative Action will not buck up against them, oops!, they don’t buck up against any department, only the least defensive, staff. Staff has no one there that will stand up for them or fight for their rights. Bad evaluations can be given at the whim of a supervisor with no repercussions even when you can prove a supervisor has lied. Many government agencies are going to a reversible evaluation process, that may level the playing field a little more in the workplace. Information has been sent to the powers-that-be only to be thrown in a garbage can or buried underneath things that are considered more important. Owsley, Ralston and Johnson constantly dodge any responsiblity for making decisions and run to avoid even being approached. Come on somebody at UofL, grow some balls and start fighting to protect all employees……not the just ones bringing in that almighty dollar. Everyone realizes that the money is needed to keep the university functioning, but the cost of high turnover rates in hiring new employees, training and retraining employees doesn’t come cheap. If nothing else, Felner has proven that Administration can screw over the university as well as the staff that they keep holding to the higher standards.
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