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		<title>By: Jake</title>
		<link>http://pageonekentucky.com/2008/06/05/prominent-democrats-still-trashing-barack-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-7267</link>
		<dc:creator>Jake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 22:43:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, come on!  Eat my sweet homo ass, Joe.

I was paraphrasing just as Joe Arnold was.  What Tina said was probably worse than calling him an empty suit.  It was certainly negative and was just in different words.  But that&#039;s exactly what she meant.  You can&#039;t watch her interview and not come away with the same thoughts.

P.S.  WHO on earth ever said I have credibility?  That&#039; scary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, come on!  Eat my sweet homo ass, Joe.</p>
<p>I was paraphrasing just as Joe Arnold was.  What Tina said was probably worse than calling him an empty suit.  It was certainly negative and was just in different words.  But that&#8217;s exactly what she meant.  You can&#8217;t watch her interview and not come away with the same thoughts.</p>
<p>P.S.  WHO on earth ever said I have credibility?  That&#8217; scary.</p>
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		<title>By: alan harbig</title>
		<link>http://pageonekentucky.com/2008/06/05/prominent-democrats-still-trashing-barack-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-7265</link>
		<dc:creator>alan harbig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 20:41:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tina has really disappointed me on this one.  Time to circle the wagons and back the nominee.  Heck, I was for Edwards and didn&#039;t even  get a chance to vote for him.  Clinton supporters need to get in line.  The tent is bog enough for everyone --- and while I was very impressed with the level of discourse during the primaries, we D&#039;s need to get it together and keep our eye on the prize.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tina has really disappointed me on this one.  Time to circle the wagons and back the nominee.  Heck, I was for Edwards and didn&#8217;t even  get a chance to vote for him.  Clinton supporters need to get in line.  The tent is bog enough for everyone &#8212; and while I was very impressed with the level of discourse during the primaries, we D&#8217;s need to get it together and keep our eye on the prize.</p>
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		<title>By: joe</title>
		<link>http://pageonekentucky.com/2008/06/05/prominent-democrats-still-trashing-barack-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-7256</link>
		<dc:creator>joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 19:40:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jake,

Why haven&#039;t you updated the story to include Joe Arnold&#039;s email on the home page?  You state in the story, &quot;Referring to Obama as an empty suit (and she did) is absolutely disgusting&quot; but Joe Arnold clearly states that in fact Tina DID NOT call Obama an &quot;Empty Suit&quot; rather Joe summed up her comments with that term.  So what gives?  Trying to push an agenda here?  Pisses off everybody doesn&#039;t share the same opinions as you?  

Time to grow up hoss or your blog is going to continue to lose credibility.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jake,</p>
<p>Why haven&#8217;t you updated the story to include Joe Arnold&#8217;s email on the home page?  You state in the story, &#8220;Referring to Obama as an empty suit (and she did) is absolutely disgusting&#8221; but Joe Arnold clearly states that in fact Tina DID NOT call Obama an &#8220;Empty Suit&#8221; rather Joe summed up her comments with that term.  So what gives?  Trying to push an agenda here?  Pisses off everybody doesn&#8217;t share the same opinions as you?  </p>
<p>Time to grow up hoss or your blog is going to continue to lose credibility.</p>
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		<title>By: James R</title>
		<link>http://pageonekentucky.com/2008/06/05/prominent-democrats-still-trashing-barack-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-7233</link>
		<dc:creator>James R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 12:53:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hemlock----

 JFK had been first been elected a congressman in 1946 and a US Senator in the 1950s. 
 Kennedy had quite a bit more experience than Obama, so please be forthcoming if you are going to use JFKs name.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hemlock&#8212;-</p>
<p> JFK had been first been elected a congressman in 1946 and a US Senator in the 1950s.<br />
 Kennedy had quite a bit more experience than Obama, so please be forthcoming if you are going to use JFKs name.</p>
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		<title>By: What a Goober</title>
		<link>http://pageonekentucky.com/2008/06/05/prominent-democrats-still-trashing-barack-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-7192</link>
		<dc:creator>What a Goober</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 03:24:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why should we be impressed with Hillary Clinton when she blew every bit of her inevitability.  We aren&#039;t talking about a few mistakes here.  It was systemic failure.  How competent was she, really?  Obama&#039;s proven that he can put together a more formidable political machine and movement than her in about 20 percent the time she had to organize hers (and he couldn&#039;t take the levers of power working for him as Clinton could).  Let&#039;s just get over this Hillary Clinton as a stronger candidate crap because that&#039;s what it is: crap.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why should we be impressed with Hillary Clinton when she blew every bit of her inevitability.  We aren&#8217;t talking about a few mistakes here.  It was systemic failure.  How competent was she, really?  Obama&#8217;s proven that he can put together a more formidable political machine and movement than her in about 20 percent the time she had to organize hers (and he couldn&#8217;t take the levers of power working for him as Clinton could).  Let&#8217;s just get over this Hillary Clinton as a stronger candidate crap because that&#8217;s what it is: crap.</p>
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		<title>By: Not My Real Name</title>
		<link>http://pageonekentucky.com/2008/06/05/prominent-democrats-still-trashing-barack-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-7188</link>
		<dc:creator>Not My Real Name</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 02:24:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What Tina said, or apparently said, or was paraphrased is saying, is not much different than those legions of us conservatives who frequently express our misgivings about the GOP nominee. The most influential conservative commentators aren&#039;t on board the Straight Talk Express, by any means, and no one is making a huge fuss to get them back on the reservation.

Lots of D&#039;s have doubts about Obama and lots of R&#039;s, this one included for sure, have doubts about McCain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What Tina said, or apparently said, or was paraphrased is saying, is not much different than those legions of us conservatives who frequently express our misgivings about the GOP nominee. The most influential conservative commentators aren&#8217;t on board the Straight Talk Express, by any means, and no one is making a huge fuss to get them back on the reservation.</p>
<p>Lots of D&#8217;s have doubts about Obama and lots of R&#8217;s, this one included for sure, have doubts about McCain.</p>
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		<title>By: CollegeDem</title>
		<link>http://pageonekentucky.com/2008/06/05/prominent-democrats-still-trashing-barack-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-7186</link>
		<dc:creator>CollegeDem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 23:13:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John Yarmuth, Ben Chandler, Daniel Mongiardo- Kentucky isn&#039;t entirely a lost cause on party leadership- those three saw the inspiration, leadership, and drive for substantive change to politics as usual that Obama brings, and support him publicly, despite the criticism that they have all received for their endorsements.

I am disappointed in Tina and in a lot of other Clinton supporters, there comes a time at the end of a primary when it is no longer about a person, it&#039;s about coming together behind the ideals of the party, and uniting against the often detrimental policies of the national Republicans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John Yarmuth, Ben Chandler, Daniel Mongiardo- Kentucky isn&#8217;t entirely a lost cause on party leadership- those three saw the inspiration, leadership, and drive for substantive change to politics as usual that Obama brings, and support him publicly, despite the criticism that they have all received for their endorsements.</p>
<p>I am disappointed in Tina and in a lot of other Clinton supporters, there comes a time at the end of a primary when it is no longer about a person, it&#8217;s about coming together behind the ideals of the party, and uniting against the often detrimental policies of the national Republicans.</p>
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		<title>By: UK Alumni</title>
		<link>http://pageonekentucky.com/2008/06/05/prominent-democrats-still-trashing-barack-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-7175</link>
		<dc:creator>UK Alumni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 20:11:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dictionary: petulant  (pĕch&#039;ə-lənt) 

 adj.

Unreasonably irritable or ill-tempered; peevish.

Contemptuous in speech or behavior.
[Latin petulāns, petulant-, insolent, from petere, to assail.]

petulance pet&#039;u·lance or pet&#039;u·lan·cy n.

petulantly pet&#039;u·lant·ly adv.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dictionary: petulant  (pĕch&#8217;ə-lənt) </p>
<p> adj.</p>
<p>Unreasonably irritable or ill-tempered; peevish.</p>
<p>Contemptuous in speech or behavior.<br />
[Latin petulāns, petulant-, insolent, from petere, to assail.]</p>
<p>petulance pet&#8217;u·lance or pet&#8217;u·lan·cy n.</p>
<p>petulantly pet&#8217;u·lant·ly adv.</p>
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		<title>By: jake</title>
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		<dc:creator>jake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 19:36:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe--

Many thanks for chiming in!

While &quot;emtpy suit&quot; was your attempt at a summary, it&#039;s no different than what Tina actually said to you.  In all honesty, her language was much more damaging.

The fact that you as an honest journalist camped outside Tina&#039;s office to score an interview doesn&#039;t change what she said on-camera.  She is wholly responsible for that.  

Someone should interview Olivia Morris Fuchs on-cam so she can complain about how she&#039;s voting for John McCain or whatever.  That&#039;d be great television!

Honestly, though, the interview with Tina was great and relevant.  Mirrors exactly what&#039;s going on among Hillary&#039;s supporters in Kentucky.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe&#8211;</p>
<p>Many thanks for chiming in!</p>
<p>While &#8220;emtpy suit&#8221; was your attempt at a summary, it&#8217;s no different than what Tina actually said to you.  In all honesty, her language was much more damaging.</p>
<p>The fact that you as an honest journalist camped outside Tina&#8217;s office to score an interview doesn&#8217;t change what she said on-camera.  She is wholly responsible for that.  </p>
<p>Someone should interview Olivia Morris Fuchs on-cam so she can complain about how she&#8217;s voting for John McCain or whatever.  That&#8217;d be great television!</p>
<p>Honestly, though, the interview with Tina was great and relevant.  Mirrors exactly what&#8217;s going on among Hillary&#8217;s supporters in Kentucky.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Arnold/WHAS11</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Arnold/WHAS11</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 19:31:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the interest of clarity, I should mention that &quot;empty suit&quot; was not a quote from Tina Ward-Pugh, but my attempt to summarize a series of statements in which she questioned the substance behind Obama&#039;s rhetoric and that she was &quot;not convinced that there&#039;s enough there to lead this country.&quot;  

Secondly, Ward-Pugh did not seek out the media for comment.  To the contrary, I camped out outside the Metro Council chambers waiting for an opportunity to speak with her.  She was agreeable to the interview, but it was only after I requested it on the phone and in person.  Given how passionately she has supported Hillary Clinton, I thought she would be the perfect person to comment on the contest, and Ward-Pugh did not disappoint.  

On a side note,  I had quite a few other private conversations with Clinton supporters on Wednesday who were equally unconvinced of Obama&#039;s abilities and used even more blunt language in the process.  It backs up Ward-Pugh&#039;s belief that she is merely &quot;the tip of the iceberg.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the interest of clarity, I should mention that &#8220;empty suit&#8221; was not a quote from Tina Ward-Pugh, but my attempt to summarize a series of statements in which she questioned the substance behind Obama&#8217;s rhetoric and that she was &#8220;not convinced that there&#8217;s enough there to lead this country.&#8221;  </p>
<p>Secondly, Ward-Pugh did not seek out the media for comment.  To the contrary, I camped out outside the Metro Council chambers waiting for an opportunity to speak with her.  She was agreeable to the interview, but it was only after I requested it on the phone and in person.  Given how passionately she has supported Hillary Clinton, I thought she would be the perfect person to comment on the contest, and Ward-Pugh did not disappoint.  </p>
<p>On a side note,  I had quite a few other private conversations with Clinton supporters on Wednesday who were equally unconvinced of Obama&#8217;s abilities and used even more blunt language in the process.  It backs up Ward-Pugh&#8217;s belief that she is merely &#8220;the tip of the iceberg.&#8221;</p>
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